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Pangea
Joined: 10 Dec 2011
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:45 pm
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lol 1.3%.. here in sweden when I was in highschool like 30% smoked
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MonkeysxMoo35
Joined: 11 Mar 2014
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:01 pm
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They look a lot like Kyon & Koizumi
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ZanraiKid
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:02 pm
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I have one question I'd like to ask anybody who knows the answer to this. What is the primary reason educational programs, specifically animated programs, have to be unbearably awful? This isn't just in the sense of anti-drugs PSA. No, they are bound now and forever to simply not work, regardless of quality. What I mean is why does it look like there is no budget by any definition of the word?
Every single solitary program, short, movie, and ad that I have ever seen in my entire LIFE that advertises positive life decisions is dead on arrival. Is it a lack of funds? Is it a lack of vision. Do they just not care? I hope they care, because THAT'S THE MAIN REASON YOU CREATED THIS PROGRAM!
To anyone who gets it in their minds that a worthwhile venture would be to go into this industry, I have one request. Do not bore us. Do not question our intelligence. Do not show your lack of care and attention. This is your mission. Your livelihood. Create something that says just that.
EDIT: And furthermore, this PSA doesn't work because the smoker has absolutely AWFUL friends. They find out he smokes, and they abandon him? What is up with that? Smoking may change you physically, and it may have adverse health affects, but you are still a person. Yes, Japanese high schools are cutthroat. Yes, there are more significant problems than one or two smokers. However, I'd like to think these people have more civility than to just up and forget their close friend for screwing up once in his life.
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zeo1fan
Joined: 02 Sep 2011
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:17 pm
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Wow, that was horrible. Terrible sound design; terrible animation; wooden acting. I found the best friend's lisp particularly funny.
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RestLessone
Joined: 02 Aug 2009
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:21 pm
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I love when the voices stop but the lips keep going for a bit.
zeo1fan wrote: | I found the best friend's lisp particularly funny. |
That's my favorite part. It's almost cute.
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12skippy21
Joined: 25 Nov 2008
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:41 pm
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ZanraiKid, more often than not these schemes are either designed by a group of adults in an office or a charity group. The former have more budget but rarely get the input from those the message it is aimed at. The latter usually have more effort put into them by speaking to the target audience and putting it into their publications but with a smaller budget. This is what I have experienced firsthand with environmental media at least.
They are starting late though, when you start smoking it is usually in the 12-14 range. I still think the UK has the best method. Tax them to high hell so no-one can afford them, then we can all become alcoholics because booze is a lot cheaper and everyone needs some form of fix to get through the working week.
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Parse Error
Joined: 09 Oct 2009
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:50 pm
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ZanraiKid wrote: | What is the primary reason educational programs, specifically animated programs, have to be unbearably awful? |
Partly because of the budget as you surmised, but mostly because they have to be as inoffensive and easily digestible for children as possible.
ZanraiKid wrote: | Tax them to high hell so no-one can afford them, then we can all become alcoholics because booze is a lot cheaper and everyone needs some form of fix to get through the working week. |
Actually the best method of all would be to treat smoking or drinking as responsibilities like doing homework or washing the dishes. Just tell the kids they can't play their video games until they finish their beer and cigarettes, and they'll gladly toss them in the trash while you aren't looking.
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enurtsol
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:55 pm
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Playing sports does discourage smoking - seen it happen often enough. But not because of some broad. Sports players want to keep up with their peers and rivals - the last thing they want is not be able to keep up and compete. Smoking and eating bad diets hinder that. That's why encourage your kids to play - they end up doing healthier things without you having to tell them.
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king 47
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:00 pm
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Pangea wrote: | lol 1.3%.. here in sweden when I was in highschool like 30% smoked |
Anything higher than 0 is too many.
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walw6pK4Alo
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:09 pm
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I couldn't even get a minute in, it was just visually painful.
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TsunaReborn!
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:21 pm
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That was so bad it was too funny... I think they are going about this the wrong way. I was a fairly successful swimmer when I started smoking. I didn't care about my health at the time what I did and still do care about is money. I think these ads need to stress the financial burden of smoking rather than health risks in the future as young people don't think about the future in that way; what they do think about is money (and sex).
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Cyclone1993
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:30 pm
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Smoking PSA's like this are coming from the right place but they are often terrible. Honestly the best PSA against smoking was probably in Sekai Seifuku/World Conquest where the joke of one episode is how smokers aren't human. Sure it's a joke and a rather crazy one at that, but if some otaku somewhere decided to stop skoking because it made his loli waifu angry, then it fulfilled its purpose. (At least it looked nice!)
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Kebble
Joined: 19 Aug 2011
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 7:35 pm
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Now the real question is, does the Japanese government have an educational anime video demonstrating 'the dangers of fireworks' to show elementary school children? In Canada, back when I was in elementary school, we had to sit through a live-action video of people with various burns and missing fingers explain why Halloween doesn't equal fun-with-fireworks. Good times indeed.
I also think I speak for everyone when I ask "Can we get a full anime adaption of this anti-smoking anime?" Oh yes, something conservative in the area of 50 or more episodes would be nice. And the animation is beautiful just the way it is, kind of like Flowers of Evil, except not done on purpose!
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shiranehito
Joined: 27 Dec 2011
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 8:20 pm
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Are people in Japan really that heartless? The former friends of the smoker were like "Oh, see. That guy smokes. Let's unfriend him and ignore him for the rest of our lives." No wonder bullying is an usual case in Japan. The next day, the smoker quits smoking, because he quits living as well.
By the way, I didn't even finish watching this because of the horrible everything. I can't see how this campaign is going to work. A lot of people still smokes despite of knowing the health risk. Even showing a picture of rotten black lungs doesn't bug them. So I can't imagine how young lads would be convinced with this terrible anime short.
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Shadowrun20XX
Joined: 26 Nov 2007
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:05 pm
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If anything it shows how shallow people are if you don't hang around because of someone who smokes. You are better off without them.
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