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NEWS: Upper Deck Disputes End of Yu-Gi-Oh! Deal with Konami


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Shadowrun20XX



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:17 pm Reply with quote
"organize new tournament events"

That's right folks,the card game is still going strong even to this day.I was at a party not too long ago,and I heard people talking about Yu-Gi-Oh card tournaments (of all things) still being held.I said "What the ****,are you kidding me?"He said "not at all" and told me that some of the tournament prizes included up to $5000. Laughing That's a nice little addiction Upper Deck introduced to that generation.Hell,I could only imagine what trauma their children will endure in the future.
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BellosTheMighty



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:27 pm Reply with quote
Shadowrun20XX wrote:
He said "not at all" and told me that some of the tournament prizes included up to $5000.


You sure about that? IIRC, Konami specifically insisted that UDE not offer cash prizes for Yu-Gi-Oh!, because they didn't want to run afoul of gambling ordinances. That's one of the reasons they brought out VS, actually: they thought they could revitalize the market by offering their Yu-Gi-Oh players a newer, better-designed game that you could actually win substantial prizes for. (For the record: You can't.)
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Jarm



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:44 pm Reply with quote
I remember when I used to save my lunch money so I could buy a pack of cards from 7-eleven. When I look back at it now, I somewhat regret buying them. Although it was strong in the past, I don't really know anyone now who still plays it besides cheating 8-year olds.
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hikaru004



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:56 pm Reply with quote
Plus you had people buying cases of those cards just to get the rare and powerful ones and selling the other cards. I'm surprised that any kid other than the ones spending major bucks could win anything.
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Ryusui



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:01 pm Reply with quote
I hope Upper Deck wins this one.
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ChibiGoku



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:13 pm Reply with quote
Ryusui wrote:
I hope Upper Deck wins this one.


I kind of don't. It would hit 4Kids a heavy blow, in all honesty.
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fighterholic



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:15 pm Reply with quote
Hmm, Konami seems to be getting a little greedy on this one.
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Shadowrun20XX



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:34 pm Reply with quote
BellosTheMighty wrote:
Shadowrun20XX wrote:
He said "not at all" and told me that some of the tournament prizes included up to $5000.


You sure about that? IIRC, Konami specifically insisted that UDE not offer cash prizes for Yu-Gi-Oh!, because they didn't want to run afoul of gambling ordinances. That's one of the reasons they brought out VS, actually: they thought they could revitalize the market by offering their Yu-Gi-Oh players a newer, better-designed game that you could actually win substantial prizes for. (For the record: You can't.)
It's hard to say,I'm not into the dual cards myself,but I have seen giant tournaments held in random mom and pop stores,over the years.Don't know if it's an underground thing or it's just where I live?
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Teriyaki Terrier



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I remember the day of saving my allowance and then going to a 7-Eleven to buy a pack of cards as well. I suppose those days are long over since ebay became more popular and the fact I don't hear much news about card games anymore.

I don't think the hobby has become completely nonexistant, but a friend of mine whose been a card collecter for several years now tells me that card games aren't as popular as they used to be.

Just like Pog's though. That was real popular in the 80's, but like most popular fads, it eventually became a thing of the past.
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VDZ



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:19 am Reply with quote
hikaru004 wrote:
I'm surprised that any kid other than the ones spending major bucks could win anything.

Yes. As a player of Yu-Gi-Oh! Online who doesn't invest all that much, I can tell you that good deck building skills and playing skills can make you win against "better" decks. You don't need the "best" cards to win, although you do need decent cards (especially the more common staple cards). Oh, and if you play like that, you will start to HATE certain cards, such as Heavy Storm.
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Ryusui



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 2:24 am Reply with quote
ChibiGoku wrote:
Ryusui wrote:
I hope Upper Deck wins this one.


I kind of don't. It would hit 4Kids a heavy blow, in all honesty.


Are you insane? It's Konami that let 4Kids practically control the franchise in the first place. UDE has been trying their damnedest to rebel against their idiocy.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:46 am Reply with quote
Ryusui wrote:
ChibiGoku wrote:
Ryusui wrote:
I hope Upper Deck wins this one.


I kind of don't. It would hit 4Kids a heavy blow, in all honesty.


Are you insane? It's Konami that let 4Kids practically control the franchise in the first place. UDE has been trying their damnedest to rebel against their idiocy.


Given how Konami is currently about this whole ordeal, I don't think this is the case. They themselves want to make money on the franchies. Without Upper Deck, 4Kids will not have any part of the profits of the card game, which is what is the main reason they have kept the Yugioh anime in the first place. So...

Trust me, things change after awhile.
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Unit 03.5-ish



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:17 am Reply with quote
It's a marketing machine, and the cogs happen to be Konami, Upper Deck, and 4Kids. If any of those cogs are removed from the machine, it will stop working.

So for anyone who STILL cares about this franchise (I'm...surprised people still do, but hey), don't hope one guy or another falls because you'll end up screwed in the end.
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Precis



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:17 am Reply with quote
Ah, corporate greed. Witness it in action.

I haven't really been paying a huge amount of attention to what's been happening (as I'm only a casual player, and legal stuff like this makes my head spin), but from what I understand: if UDE get their way, Konami are gonna be $75 million out of pocket and nothing will change. If Konami win, UDE are screwed and we'll probably be seeing some differences in the way things are run in the TCG (same card pools as the OCG, with any luck).

If Konami do win, they're not gonna screw us over as bad as all the competitive players are worrying. They want to make money, and messing up the game isn't going to help any. x_x
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Unit 03.5-ish



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:19 am Reply with quote
Precis wrote:
Ah, corporate greed. Witness it in action.

I haven't really been paying a huge amount of attention to what's been happening (as I'm only a casual player, and legal stuff like this makes my head spin), but from what I understand: if UDE get their way, Konami are gonna be $75 million out of pocket and nothing will change. If Konami win, UDE are screwed and we'll probably be seeing some differences in the way things are run in the TCG (same card pools as the OCG, with any luck).

If Konami do win, they're not gonna screw us over as bad as all the competitive players are worrying. They want to make money, and messing up the game isn't going to help any. x_x


Konami doesn't NEED to give a crap who wins or loses. They have Castlevania and Metal Gear Solid to milk, so what's it to them to lose a battle over a ten-year-old card franchise they mostly churn out video games for?
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