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Baggie
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So can we look forward to fewer Japanese/Korean translations, and more of the crappy OEL titles?
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GATSU
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Will we see the reverse? (I.E. novelizations of Tokyopop manga.)
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Joe Mello
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I thought they were already moving in that direction. |
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HanatoYume
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Great, now my Lizzie McGuire Cinemanga won't be lonely
So I'm assuming they're going to create Princess Diaries Comics and sell them as "manga"? This is why Viz is so much better...SO much better. |
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Abarenbo Shogun
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And so TOKYOPOP slowly ruins their good name.....I can only sense much hardship with this alliance.
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Anrui Ukimi
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I have no problem with Tokyopop releasing OEL (Original English Language, I presume) materials, in fact, I enjoy some of them. (Considering I just got my Sea Princess Azuri volume today)
However, it becomes problematic when the quality of their primary base of manga and manhwa begins to waver in response. I enjoy the original English works, but the 'cinemangas' are silly. Among other things. I guess we can only wait and see how it turns out. ~Anrui out! |
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linlinchan
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And there is no sign of that happening. OEL publishing frequency has increased, but that does not mean an automatic drop in quality or quantity of manga or manhwa published. In fact, I think there are a lot of manga coming up this year that are really worthwhile. |
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Abarenbo Shogun
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They still haven't improved the translation of Initial D. I predict that as soon as Fast & the Furious: Tokyo Drift comes out, TOKYOPOP will try to capitalize on this by degrading the script to the point of absurdity. |
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Ztarr
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1) I wish people wouldn't be prejudice against "OEL".
2) I wish everyone would stop using the term "OEL". 3) Manga can be geared towards a broader target audience than traditional comics. Some manga is geared towards pre-teen girls, and not 30 year old star wars fans who live with their mom. Just because there hasn't been a hugely successful english produced manga yet, doesn't mean you have to be japanese to make great manga. Grow up. |
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jmays
ANN Past Staff
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I must say I'm pretty stunned by all the negative comments. This is HarperCollins we're talking about here, not some shady amateur operation. Tokyopop has to prove it can make something good with HC's authors, of course, but to be so skeptical this early in the game just seems silly.
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Reliak
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True, but honestly? All the OEL I've seen so far kind of...sucked. Most just try to mimic manga's style and don't bring anything original to the scene. Though I do agree (sort of) on not calling it "OEL." Just call it comics. It's not manga because it's not produced in Japan - the Koreans don't call their manwha "manga" after all. |
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Patachu
Past ANN Contributor
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Do you have a sensible reason for this, or are you just trying to win a contest to be the Most Annoying Person On The Internet? I was the first person to use "OEL" back in April '05, so you better have a really good answer for me. I don't usually take it too personally if someone disagrees with a term I invented for my own personal convenience (and somehow got into the upper echelons of the comic publishing industry), but you're being such an insufferable tard about this that I just want to know WHAT THE HELL YOUR PROBLEM IS AND WHY. |
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HitokiriShadow
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What I want to know is how exactly this is going to effect Tokyopop's business. But as far as I can tell, this won't have any effect on their translations, good or bad. I would assume this will affect distribution more than anything else.
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Ztarr
Posts: 44 Location: Canada |
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1) I don't think any manga should have a seperate label just because of the native origins of the author/artist. 2) I find that the term has a slight negative meaning to readers who have heard of the term. There hasn't been a lot of GREAT non-jp produced titles in the NA market yet, and so a lot of people think the term "OEL" relates to "amateur" "sub-standard" or "not authentic".
"Manga", "manhwa", and "manhua" are all cognates... they all have the same origin. From a marketing POV, you need the term manga...because here in NA, when you say "Comics", most people think of superheroes, Archie, or newspaper comic strips. Manga is marketed, in general, to a different audience than comics. Trust me, there's a big difference...especially when it comes to promotion and selling. Big chain book stores will gladly sell all kinds of MANGA...but would be skeptical about carrying COMICS. Also, I hightly doubt there will ever be a seperate "OEL Manga" section...it's not needed, it's not marketable, and it doesn't even sound nice. |
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Reliak
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Manga and manwha have the same word origin, that's pretty obvious. So what? That doesn't make them interchangeable. If American comics (or graphic novels, which might be a better term) showed up in Japan, they'd be called manga, just like if an American cartoon shows up in Japan it gets called anime. This doesn't make Loony Toons anime; "anime" is a term limited towards animation produced in Japan. The same should be applied to "manga" as well. Call it graphic novels or comics or picture books or what have you, it doesn't make it a manga. |
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