Forum - View topicTokyo Game Show 2024 - Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake Converted Me into a Dragon Quest Fan
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Vanadise
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I'm glad to hear this is looking good, although I feel the need to point out...
This has been a feature of the series all the way back to Dragon Quest IV on the NES, where in fact, in the final chapter, you could only give commands to your main character; the entire rest of the party was always controlled by AI. Nearly every game since then has given you the option to switch between manual input or different AI styles. |
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milkyy
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Yes, come the the DQ side
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Amritzer
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I wonder in what way have they remade Dragon Quest I.
Not that long ago I played original NES version, and while I really liked it for what it is, it IS very basic (one could say that it is for JRPGs, what Super Mario Bros. is for platformers), and outdated at this point. |
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LinkTSwordmaster
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At the very least, I'm glad someone new is enjoying it. I'd love to recommend some of the other titles in the series, but in truth, full-voice isn't something that all of them have. The writing & accents of each character's regional dialect is always charming to the point that it's a travesty most DQ games are text-only.
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ZelosZoidberg
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Still glad to see more people wanting to try Dragon Quest games! If DQ8 is FFVII, Then depending on who you ask DQIII is considered FFVI or FFIV (DQ V is considered in the conversation). I personally find DQIX heavily underrated in the entire series because it came the closest to being like DQIII. |
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BadNewsBlues
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Not as bad as having Keifer’s sister speaking with a lisp. Which requires at least 3 readings to understand her dialog. |
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TsarPlatinum
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I will also never understand why official DQ localization went with the dialog it did. Yangus in 8 was nigh ununderstandable. Do people actually like them giving everyone thick, unpenetrable accents?
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FinalVentCard
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At this point, it's part of the presentation. The original Dragon Quest ("Dragon Warrior", in those days) gave everyone faux-Shakespearean Olde English dialogue, which is now canon to the Tantagel region. They've been doing the overdone accents in Dragon Quest ever since Dragon Quest VIII was released on PS2, and for the most part DQ fans (all 20 of us) love it. DQ8 also had the advantage of voice acting to help make the dialogue easier to understand. It's like the puns: DQ isn't DQ without it. Remaking DQ3 makes a lot of sense, since it's "the big one" for DQ fans. It's the game that made the series actually pop-off, and it's the one that's stuck in cultural consciousness the most (anytime you see an isekai hero with a circlet and a teal outfit: they're channeling the vibes of the DQ3 hero). DQ3 is also the most "sophisticated" of the Erdrick/Roto trilogy; DQ1 and 2 are good, but they're much simpler in comparison (hence why they're packed together so often). Heck, just this weekend I saw Jeremy Parish talk about Dragon Quest 1's localization (and how Nintendo could have avoided a massive loss if they had localized Dragon Quest 3 in the first place instead of the first one). |
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KabaKabaFruit
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I still call the game Dragon Warrior. It honestly sounds cooler to me.
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Christian802
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I find it amusing that this article was posted after the Dragon Quest creator Yuji Horii and former Shonen Jump editor-in-chief Kazuhiko Torishima themselves expressed condemnation of USA and western sensibilities for forcing them to censor the remake, i.e. covering up the girls and changing male/female to body type A/B. The fact that this article is short and sweet means that this was put together to prevent people from knowing it.
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AiddonValentine
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And from what I understand, the Japanese versions run the gamut of regional dialects so the decision to use UK lingo and even dub in the UK is because of that.
1) Take the conspiracy nonsense elsewhere 2) Torishima is not part of DQ, they just had him there to fill in for the late Toriyama 3) ratings boards like the ESRB are indeed garbage everywhere, but they're garbage because they're run by hypocritical weirdos who think talking about gay people is too much for kids. So miss me with the culture war BS. |
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Key
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And I find it amusing (actually tiresome) that someone is immediately jumping to conspiracy theory conclusions when a much simpler explanation - that the article's writer didn't attend that interview and wasn't aware of it at the time of writing this piece, and that this piece was written on a quick turn-around - is far more plausible. Also, "condemnation of USA" is a rather particular way to interpret what was in that interview that stretches the intent of Horii and Torishima's words. Besides, what would be the point to ANN not wanting people to know about it? Please consider if your claims make any sense at all before casting accusations like this in the future. |
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FeelMyBlade
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I agree the interview likely happened after the reviewer played the demo at TGS and expecting it to be mentioned in a random game preview and not it's own article isn't fair but at the same time it seems naive to think personal bias don't come into play when it comes to covering this kind of stuff. |
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medicinodestiny
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Nothing Horii and Torishima talked about had to do with gay people or whatever other pet issue you have with American institutions. They were very clear and direct in what they were talking about and it was how the pressure being put on Japanese media to self-censor is coming from progressive practices being pushed by overseas companies offended by things like calling characters male or female. That directness is why some people are upset with Horii now and trying to turn him into the next Sugiyama since he's saying things they don't like. It's also why complaining about "culture war BS" is nonsense because the people who say that were also the ones mad no one in Japan cared about Sugiyama's political views or saw them as a big deal even to this day. |
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ANN_Lynzee
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This is a false blanket statement that doesn't have any basis. His statements on a far-right wing program in 2018, along with those of politician Mio Sugita, led to protests in Japan. http://4NN.cx/.134642 Square Enix also made an official statement after his appearance resurfaced: http://4NN.cx/.134974 The views and subsequent protest were reported on by The Mainichi, The Asahi Shimbun, and The Japan Times.
Correct; I only became aware of this interview yesterday and given that Ken and Richard were covering TGS for me, it wouldn't have been possible for me to even suggest that the references from this interview were missing at the time the draft was turned in. It's more likely this will be touched on in This Week in Games on Friday. |
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