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Gem-Bug
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 Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:55 pm
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| Quote: | | and it is the most important property, I think, that's untapped IP, if you will. |
Because maybe the games tell a story adequately...?
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FilthyCasual
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 2:40 pm
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At least the awards had bouncers this time lol.
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varmintx
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 3:39 pm
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Is it hypocritical or contradictory to say that I couldn't possibly give less of a **** about who wins Game Awards while also being happy that Soken won for music?
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Juno016
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 5:44 pm
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I've been a consistent Splatoon player since the Japanese release of Splatoon 1, but the new special in Splatoon 3 causes me uncomfortable eye strain and weird visual noise, which in turn gives me anxiety to play it. The special isn't very competitively exceptional right now, but there are people playing teams of weapons with it, which is absolutely terrifying for me. Nintendo must fix this as soon as possible. I'm unfortunately stuck playing Salmon Run mode only until then...
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i got the shivers!
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Location: Brazil
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 5:54 pm
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I think the Keifer Sutherland controversy in MGSV was just the tip of the iceberg. I wonder if Kojima stuck around Konami for more MGS we'd see these focus on Hollywood actors and directors being inserted into Metal Gear. In a way, I'm kind of glad he's doing his own thing now since I have no interest in his current stuff and at the very least it's no associated with a game series I enjoyed so I can ignore it.
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BadNewsBlues
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 5:54 pm
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| varmintx wrote: | | Is it hypocritical or contradictory to say that I couldn't possibly give less of a **** about who wins Game Awards while also being happy that Soken won for music? |
Detractors of awards shows almost never care about awards shows unless their favorite thing(s) win or get snubbed.
| Quote: | | This year's Game Awards was more concerned with letting its cavalcade of celebrity guests and advertisements hog the limelight from the hard-working devs. No joke, each award winner was given 30 seconds to say their acceptance speeches before a teleprompter told them to “wrap it up.” It was somewhat painful to watch, especially considering some award winners, like Baldur's Gate 3 developer Larian Studios, were given the signal to cut their speech short while dedicating their win to Jim Southworth, a lead cinematic artist who passed away during the game's development. Meanwhile, celebs like Simu Liu and game developer (and Geoff Keighley's bestie) Hideo Kojima were allowed to speak uninterrupted onstage for a huge chunk of the show. Make it make sense. |
I would explain but I’d need 8 minutes of your time.
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BadNewsBlues
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 6:04 pm
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| Quote: | | was $60. That's the retail price for Street Fighter 6, by the way. |
Well when it’s not on sale like it has been for two of the last three weeks.
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Nagatoka_Morito
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 6:17 pm
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I'd care more about The Game Adverts if it was more about honoring the developers and less about circlejerking over the same handful of high profile games that already get a ton of media coverage and providing publishers with yet another venue to show off fancy trailers that are non-indicative of final gameplay.
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Nigel Planter
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 6:53 pm
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| Nagatoka_Morito wrote: | | I'd care more about The Game Adverts if it was more about honoring the developers and less about circlejerking over the same handful of high profile games that already get a ton of media coverage and providing publishers with yet another venue to show off fancy trailers that are non-indicative of final gameplay. |
A game being high profile shouldn't disqualify it from having their developers honored either. A game being popular shouldn't matter in stuff like this. Eiji Aonuma has a right to go on a stage and talk just as much as any indie dev.
Kick out all the Hollywood actors and directors who have nothing to do with video games and only get brought in so the award show can feel more grown up and legit and the blatant shilling, sure, but I don't think game popularity is an issue here.
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thecowardlyantoine
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 7:29 pm
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| varmintx wrote: | | Is it hypocritical or contradictory to say that I couldn't possibly give less of a **** about who wins Game Awards while also being happy that Soken won for music? |
Maybe, but it's cool! I don't care about the awards myself but I still find it funny hearing how Spider-Man 2 and Resident Evil 4 Remake didn't win anything because I know a lot of people who do value these awards are very upset over it
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AiddonValentine
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 10:34 pm
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| Nagatoka_Morito wrote: | | I'd care more about The Game Adverts if it was more about honoring the developers and less about circlejerking over the same handful of high profile games that already get a ton of media coverage and providing publishers with yet another venue to show off fancy trailers that are non-indicative of final gameplay. |
It's definitely indicative of the industry it represents. Hype and spectacle over substance, viewership at all costs, and treating workers and creators as an afterthought. And considering how Keighley has been in damage control mode on Twitter, I get the feeling he pissed some people off beyond the press.
It doesn't even work as marketing because too many people are fighting for time. No one is going to bring their A material to an event where they don't have room to breathe. Altogether, another trash show ran by an idiot.
As for the announcements: The Offspring in Crazy Taxi or we riot!: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXJbFl7bKT4&ab_channel=Shazam1355
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TsarPlatinum
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 1:08 am
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| Gem-Bug wrote: | | Because maybe the games tell a story adequately...? |
Then why do so many video games try to be like movies? Legend of Zelda is not one of them, but the other stuff we've seen like The Last of Us and how Hideo Kojima is not even hiding the fact he wants to be in Hollywood so bad anymore. Until game devs stop trying to make video games like movie and TV shows, they're going to be treated like the inferior medium since their gameplay is not the highlight of their work. Nobody takes games seriously. That's why adaptions are important since it gives legitimacy to their stories. That's why so any triple A games focus on cinematic experiences and hyper realistic graphics where they face-scan actual actors and in Kojima's case literally advertise themselves as having big name actors. At their core they want to be movies and TV shows, not games.
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WoodDude
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:33 am
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Evidently the Zelda movie was in the works for years so the success of the Mario movie wouldn't have influenced on it. Perhaps if it did they'd have made it animated instead of live-action.
My only opinion on the Yakuza dub issue is we're at the point where I'm pretty sure people are only being hired for projects because of their e-celebrity status and follower count. A lot of YouTubers and Streamers are being put in dubs for games and anime these days. I guess it's nothing new for this franchise since they literally threw a bunch of Twitch streamers and YouTubers in the last game as summons. It's free advertising, I guess. Not a fan of it, though. It's the same thing as celebrity casting in animated films.
| BadNewsBlues wrote: | | Detractors of awards shows almost never care about awards shows unless their favorite thing(s) win or get snubbed. |
For me it comes down to what kind of awards they are. The Game Awards are one of those award shows where 90% of the vote is skewed towards the critics and the audience has only 10% weight. I don't really care about those because the winner has already been decided and it's just whatever the game journalists want to win rather than any kind of actual decision by the gaming community - yet they make a point to tell you to vote as if it actually matters. Those kinds of shows are just for marketing so they're kind of pointless to watch, which is why I just wait for the new game announcements and trailers to get immediately uploaded to YouTube and watch them there. Award shows where the actual gaming community has a say are far more interesting to me.
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BadNewsBlues
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 7:27 am
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| TsarPlatinum wrote: | | Until game devs stop trying to make video games like movie and TV shows, they're going to be treated like the inferior medium since their gameplay is not the highlight of their work. |
The video game industry as a whole brings in billions of dollars annually and the only people I know that treat it as inferior to the movie and television industry are the Martin Scorsese’s of the world who don’t play them who’re are in ever shrinking minority. Not to mention you’re not going to see video games stop taking cues from the film industry for the simple fact that the medium has come too far from the days of simplified graphics and shallowly written plots & characters for them to revert to that.
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Divineking
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 8:43 am
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My only opinion on the Yakuza dub issue is we're at the point where I'm pretty sure people are only being hired for projects because of their e-celebrity status and follower count. A lot of YouTubers and Streamers are being put in dubs for games and anime these days. I guess it's nothing new for this franchise since they literally threw a bunch of Twitch streamers and YouTubers in the last game as summons. It's free advertising, I guess. Not a fan of it, though. It's the same thing as celebrity casting in animated films.
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I've seen this sentiment going around constantly and frankly, it's complete nonsense. Just because folks like Yong Yea or Sung-Won Cho known for being online personalities doesn't suddenly mean they aren't voice actors when both have at least a couple of years worth of credits. Hardly anyone batted an eye when Yong Yea was casted as Pucchi in Stone Ocean, and he legitimately gave one of the strongest in that dub. It's totally fine to not care for the performance, but these guys audition for things the same as any other actor and it's ridiculous seeing how many people go around claiming it's stunt casting when they've been pretty upfront about how much their other online stuff has negatively affected their ability to get casted in things.
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