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cookiemanstah
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 Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:55 pm
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too late for damage control. this movie has now been irreversibly leaked and foreign revenue is going to tank hard for it.
I fear this blunder is going to be some reason Sony will justify the removal of their video store.
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karyuudo0127
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:27 pm
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Enjoyed this last night watching it with the family. Thank you PSN for the screw up!
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JeffreySweeney
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:39 pm
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| Quote: | | The movie was removed from the store after a few hours, and the store is now offering refunds to those who were able to purchase it before. |
Please forgive my ignorance, but why would anyone want their money refunded once they purchased it? Isn't it not downloaded as a file to the console where you basically own it and can view it at your convenience, similar to how you download a MP3 to your computer and it's pretty much yours to do whatever you want with? I've never used PSN, so I don't know, but I'm assuming it's tied to being available on PSN and if it's not you can't watch it anymore?
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cookiemanstah
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:42 pm
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Yes it’s put on your console. I imagine they send letters to sue if you don’t remove it because that’s all they can do about it.
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Ryujin99
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:51 pm
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| cookiemanstah wrote: | | too late for damage control. this movie has now been irreversibly leaked and foreign revenue is going to tank hard for it.
I fear this blunder is going to be some reason Sony will justify the removal of their video store. |
To be fair, it has already set profit records, so even if future foreign theater revenue tanks, it's not like they're running at a loss.
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RenRen94
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 10:01 pm
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I really wish there was a digital viewing option for Mugen Train like how the Made in Abyss movie did (I didn't watch it, as I thought 20 bucks was a little steep).
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lossthief
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 10:05 pm
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| Ryujin99 wrote: | | To be fair, it has already set profit records, so even if future foreign theater revenue tanks, it's not like they're running at a loss. |
Also "tank hard" is a pretty drastic overreaction. The movie was listed for a few hours at most, on one platform, and most importantly viewers still had to pay for it, same as if they'd waited for the planned VOD release later on.
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harminia
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 10:07 pm
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| Quote: | | ANN has contacted Funimation but has not yet received an official comment on the matter. |
Maybe because it AOA who put it on digital not Funi.
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getchman
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 10:24 pm
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| RenRen94 wrote: | | I really wish there was a digital viewing option for Mugen Train like how the Made in Abyss movie did (I didn't watch it, as I thought 20 bucks was a little steep). |
that's going to happen June 22nd
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MagicPolly
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 10:26 pm
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| lossthief wrote: | | Also "tank hard" is a pretty drastic overreaction. The movie was listed for a few hours at most, on one platform, and most importantly viewers still had to pay for it, same as if they'd waited for the planned VOD release later on. |
The difference being that now it's possible to pirate the movie in high quality rather than having to watch a camrip. I know lots of people who would rather pirate it than watch it in theaters. "tank hard" is still an overstatement, but it'll have a much larger impact than just "some people bought it on ps4 and that's it"
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OrdepNM
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 10:30 pm
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| JeffreySweeney wrote: | |
Please forgive my ignorance, but why would anyone want their money refunded once they purchased it? Isn't it not downloaded as a file to the console where you basically own it and can view it at your convenience, similar to how you download a MP3 to your computer and it's pretty much yours to do whatever you want with? I've never used PSN, so I don't know, but I'm assuming it's tied to being available on PSN and if it's not you can't watch it anymore? |
You don't get "a file" on your console for you to do whatever you want to do with, it's a streaming on demand service, the console loads the video during playback and it stays in cache until the space is cleared by the console.
Usually if a movie or series is removed from the service *after* you buy it (usually because the license expired without a renewal) the title will still be avaliable to you, but people who don't already have it in their library won't be able to buy it anymore. It this very particular case they actually removed the title from the library of people who did purchase it. Since they're not providing the product they initially sold you, a refund is necessary to avoid legal issues.
Apparently some people were able to keep local copies on mobile devices because of an offline viewing feature on the PS Video app that allows you to download the whole movie and keep it there - and Sony doesnt seem to be willing or able to get those, but you're still entitled to a refund anyway because you did pay to be able to stream the movie, which is impossible currently.
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BigOnAnime
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 10:48 pm
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revolutionotaku
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 10:48 pm
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I've seen it in theaters which is more fun on the big screen.
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revolutionotaku
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 10:53 pm
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| cookiemanstah wrote: | | too late for damage control. this movie has now been irreversibly leaked and foreign revenue is going to tank hard for it.
I fear this blunder is going to be some reason Sony will justify the removal of their video store. |
Stuff like this is why anime/manga companies have been cracking down hard on piracy websites (mostly from China).
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lossthief
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Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:41 pm
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| MagicPolly wrote: | |
The difference being that now it's possible to pirate the movie in high quality rather than having to watch a camrip. I know lots of people who would rather pirate it than watch it in theaters. "tank hard" is still an overstatement, but it'll have a much larger impact than just "some people bought it on ps4 and that's it" |
I doubt this will have much effect on the potential box office. If people are pirating it now, they almost certainly would have pirated it 2 months later instead of going to see it in theaters - be that because of COVID worries/restrictions or just not wanting to pay to see it.
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