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REVIEW: Trillion Game Anime Streaming Review


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jmckenna15



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 12:43 pm Reply with quote
I've said my piece in the Worst Anime forum about why the "billionaires shouldn't exist" line is an empty moral argument to base Trillion Game on -- both because it makes a judgement that simply earning a billion dollars is harmful when it is just being rewarded for doing something society deems that valuable, as well as the fact Haru is clearly not like IRL billionaires who actually work to propel their ideas into something society values and are thus rewarded for it. He's a grifter like in The Sting and he's scamming bigger corporations to get there rather than taking an idea and running with it as far as it can go.

But Cormack mentions Haru wants to be a trillionaire -- that's in yen not in dollars it should be noted. They want to be on the Forbes Billionaire List, and 1T yen is only $10B. That's important context.
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Kiwi93



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 12:51 pm Reply with quote
I tried giving this a watch when it first came out but between the awkward animation and just watching way to many seasonal animes I ended up dropping it.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 1:05 pm Reply with quote
Kiwi93 wrote:
I tried giving this a watch when it first came out but between the awkward animation and just watching way to many seasonal animes I ended up dropping it.


Madhouse definitely putting their B Team on this and I agree with Cormack that it just doesn't make a strong leap from manga to anime. It also doesn't help that Kirihime doesn't look very princess like despite how many people label her as such which just draws further attention to the animation issues.
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An Unchosen One



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 1:06 pm Reply with quote
jmckenna15 wrote:
I've said my piece in the Worst Anime forum about why the "billionaires shouldn't exist" line is an empty moral argument to base Trillion Game on -- both because it makes a judgement that simply earning a billion dollars is harmful when it is just being rewarded for doing something society deems that valuable, as well as the fact Haru is clearly not like IRL billionaires who actually work to propel their ideas into something society values and are thus rewarded for it. He's a grifter like in The Sting and he's scamming bigger corporations to get there rather than taking an idea and running with it as far as it can go.

But Cormack mentions Haru wants to be a trillionaire -- that's in yen not in dollars it should be noted. They want to be on the Forbes Billionaire List, and 1T yen is only $10B. That's important context.

You continue to have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. No one has ever earned a billion dollars and it's not a reward for anything positive. Anyone who thinks otherwise is nothing more than a stooge, a gullible fool who believes things are the way they are by natural forces rather than material circumstance.

Like I told you in that same thread, it would behoove you to actually read up on harsh criticisms of wealth and capitalism rather than parrot talking points you heard from apologists. You don't need to read Marx, but at least read something that makes you question your beliefs.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 1:13 pm Reply with quote
An Unchosen One wrote:
it would behoove you to actually read up on harsh criticisms of wealth and capitalism rather than parrot talking points you heard from apologists. You don't need to read Marx, but at least read something that makes you question your beliefs.


Oh I've read plenty of anti-capitalist criticisms -- including Marx himself -- but they don't hold up to how capitalism has evolved over the last two centuries and the impact its had in improving the lives of billions of people. As well as the fact that billionaires only get there in a capitalist society because they're selling what people want to buy, and you just need to look at who is on the billionaires list to see what they provide and it makes sense how they got there. They earned it and we as a society have rewarded them for it.

And in the grand scheme of things, I'd rather have a capitalist society than a socialist one where you have an even smaller group of elites or the ones preceding both where wealth was tied even tighter to circumstances of birth and noble prestige.
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Occasionally, Haru would do things that made him seem admirable. For example, he doesn't let rejection get to him. But then he follows it up with outright swindling people. Even when he has been caught, it doesn't seem to matter and he moves on to the next thing. It just doesn't make for a terribly likable protagonist. Sure, Senku could be grating at times, but he was always well-meaning and had motivations beyond, "because he can."

Maybe it all leads to a major comeuppance for Haru, but getting there is dull enough that I don't think I will be around for the second half.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 1:40 pm Reply with quote
I've gotten to the point where I can just watch a trailer and know if a series is worth even trying. Watched the trailer for this and immediately nope'ed the hell out.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 1:48 pm Reply with quote
- Web Gift Shop with Fake IA as a gimmick
They setup a not Amazon/temu/Alibaba that instead of having quick delivery/cheap chinese products as a gimmick had a person act as an IA and give gift/flower arrangement recommendations then later expanded this concept with some host inside knowledge to boost the shop.
Most of this was legit bussiness they took a small cut of every purchase while they brought sales to the flowershops thanks to the CEOs florist knowledge and later with the partnership with an exclusive flower shop. They were about to setup a proper IA but they got trumped by Dragon Bank stealing their gimmick and putting more resources to their version of the web shop.

- Game Company
This the one time that they hurt normal people (the developers), they invented a Game Guru to fool investors to give them funds for an ambitious game and they will deliver a mediocre one instead, if they deliver anything at all. Their most illegal move yet, might be considered fraud or a scam.

- Media Company
They used blackmail and manipulation to coerce the big investors to sell their power of attorney for cheap (basically a letter that lets you make decisions for someone in a company, but the owner still retains ownership of the shares). Not exacly illegal but extremely unethical.

I think the shop was cool and I liked the game company angle and I was sad when it was revealed to just be a front to fool investors. I still love the series and find interesting everythime they take a new bussines front to tackle.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 1:49 pm Reply with quote
Since we had problems with discussions about this series in the Worst of 2024 thread, I'm putting up a preemptive warning now: Disparaging others based on their beliefs or positions won't be tolerated, and any post doing so will be pulled without warning.

(And for the record, I do not agree that "billionaire = evil" is a truism, even if there are some supporting examples in the real world.)
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An Unchosen One



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 2:51 pm Reply with quote
jmckenna15 wrote:
Oh I've read plenty of anti-capitalist criticisms -- including Marx himself -- but they don't hold up to how capitalism has evolved over the last two centuries and the impact its had in improving the lives of billions of people.

I'm heavily disinclined to believe you [ REMOVED ].

Also, capitalism has not improved anyone's lives. The only times people's lives have improved under capitalism is when it is strictly regulated. We need only look at the gilded age and great depression to see that when left to its own devices, capitalism naturally tends to upward wealth accumulation (that is, the rich get richer at the literal expense of those not well off), while implementing harsh controls like those by the administrations of both Roosevelts is what leads to notable improvements across the board. We're seeing this cycle go on with the continuous deregulations started by Reagan leading to yet more severe wealth inequality and the erosion of the middle class, with even some conservative voters starting to wish for worker-owned business rather than private ownership, to say nothing of an increase in interest in alternatives to capitalism.
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As well as the fact that billionaires only get there in a capitalist society because they're selling what people want to buy, and you just need to look at who is on the billionaires list to see what they provide and it makes sense how they got there. They earned it and we as a society have rewarded them for it.

That is not true at all. You don't become wealthy by providing what people want, but by not paying your employees a wage proportional to their contributions, by outsourcing to countries where workers are paid the equivalent of pennies per hour, by gaming the stock market, by undercutting competition however you can… The list goes on.

Again, their wealth is neither earned nor a reward, but the result of exploitation. And we've seen that proven time and again.
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And in the grand scheme of things, I'd rather have a capitalist society than a socialist one where you have an even smaller group of elites or the ones preceding both where wealth was tied even tighter to circumstances of birth and noble prestige.

[ REMOVED ] What you describe is simply not socialism. If you think, for example, that the USSR was socialist or China is, you really need do need to actually read up more before saying anything else.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 3:49 pm Reply with quote
jmckenna15 wrote:
And in the grand scheme of things, I'd rather have a capitalist society than a socialist one where you have an even smaller group of elites or the ones preceding both where wealth was tied even tighter to circumstances of birth and noble prestige.



………Being born into old money is a prevalent thing even under capitalism. And while it’s not a bad thing on its own. It can definitely lead to people of privilege being unaware or unsympathetic at the sobering truth of what those of lesser means have to go through each and everyday when it comes to having enough money to pay for food, housing, healthcare, & education along with the ever scary reality of dying broke & in debt. Things people born into rich families by & large never have to worry about because their rich parents are able to pay for it all and should these parents pass on they’ll inherit their money in addition to whatever wealth they’ve managed to accrue via good investments and such

Not to mention having a larger group of substantially wealthy elites isn’t in anyway an objectively better thing like you’re making it out to be. Especially as I alluded to in the worst anime of 2024 many of these wealthy elites knowingly and deliberately throw their money around to create many of the problems that we as a society face because these people want to enrich themselves at the expense of everyone & everything outside of their tax bracket and as the 2008 Financial crisis demonstrated. Should they screw up are not going to admit their selfishness & greed created the problem. And suffer the consequences so they can continue engaging in more schemes that’ll lead to the same ends with the same potential consequences for everyone but themselves.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2024 3:50 pm Reply with quote
I think the show is pretty fun. Watching them hustle their way up the corporate ladder with the least ethical means is interesting. Haru's motivated is to win no matter what, so of course they going to do shady things, when going up against a bank.

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While I share the reviewer's views on capitalism, I still get some morbid enjoyment out of seeing Haru scam all those rich people, the same way I enjoy shows about killers while believing in the sanctity of human life, so I'm sticking with this one until the end.
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I personally enjoyed Haru as a protagonist and all his hustling. I found him very endearing and enjoyable to watch.
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