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GATSU



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 9:07 pm Reply with quote
With an emphasis on the 2003 Supreme Court decision striking down Texas' laws against homosexual sodomy, U.S. District Judge Gary Lancaster of western Pennsylvania ruled Thursday that "the government can no longer rely on the advancement of a moral code, i.e., preventing consenting adults from entertaining lewd and lascivious thoughts as a legitimate, let alone a compelling, state interest."

More at http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/Business/story?id=433956&page=1
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The Ramblin' Wreck



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:43 pm Reply with quote
And your point?

Hentai is legal already. This will have no effect on it at all. Or do you expect Wal-Mart to start shelving Cool Devices by the end of the month.
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Kruszer



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 2:22 am Reply with quote
Interesting, although I never cared for much of the stuff myself, most I've seen is just disturbing. So it doesn't really matter to me.
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GATSU



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 12:16 am Reply with quote
Wreck: I expect it to be challenged up to the Supreme Court, anyway. And if it stays, people like certain comic book dealers selling La Blue Girl to a consenting adult can theoretically no longer be fined in certain counties.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 2:14 am Reply with quote
GATSU wrote:
Wreck: I expect it to be challenged up to the Supreme Court, anyway. And if it stays, people like certain comic book dealers selling La Blue Girl to a consenting adult can theoretically no longer be fined in certain counties.


So what your saying is that if this goes through that hentai will be easier to find and more available to the public. If so i wonder if places like Barnes and Nobles would start carrying hentai mangas Twisted Evil .
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Ohoni



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 5:33 am Reply with quote
It's really only an issue in backwater hick areas where they arrest comic shop owners for selling porn to adults. It doesn't really apply to 21st century areas of the US, only to red states.
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Pat Payne



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 12:54 pm Reply with quote
I doubt that Barnes and Noble will be carrying hentai anytime soon. IIRC, they don't sell anything more racy than Playboy, anyway.
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Diedrupo



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 5:25 pm Reply with quote
awesome news. hopefully the person who unrightfully was convicted of obscenity in the texas case (the obscenity charge was for selling urotsukidoji) will be overturned.
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Seraph



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 7:36 pm Reply with quote
It's about frick'n time. Who the hell cares what two consenting adults do together, let alone what animated (meaning no real person was physically involved) show an adult watches.
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Kazuki-san



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 7:45 pm Reply with quote
Ohoni wrote:
It's really only an issue in backwater hick areas where they arrest comic shop owners for selling porn to adults. It doesn't really apply to 21st century areas of the US, only to red states.


Had to get in a cheap shot eh?
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MiwaSatoshi
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 8:35 pm Reply with quote
Can't say Houston hasn't been asking for that sort of jab.

I still have a hard time believing that a city ("the people", if you will) can prosecute and convict a comic book owner of obscenity for selling a magazine to another adult, yet have the highest number of strip bars per capita in the country. It's immensely hypocritical, and essentially, it boils down to a few folks trying to spray their moral codes over everyone else (something I find immensely insulting) without even having the slightest hint of introspection or thought as to what "the people" really want or care about.

Most people I know from Houston *aren't* backwater hicks and are frustrated by their civil and state governments. They're actually VERY COOL PEOPLE.

Here's hoping their voices get heard, rather than the Bravo Sierra spewed by self-righteous hypocrites who insist on "protecting" other adults from stuff they already know about.
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Kazuki-san



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 9:02 pm Reply with quote
MiwaSatoshi wrote:

Here's hoping their voices get heard, rather than the Bravo Sierra spewed by self-righteous hypocrites who insist on "protecting" other adults from stuff they already know about.


I don't know anyone who can say that they are completely happy and agree with 100% of what government does on any level (city, state, national), Rep. Dem. or whatever you may be. As much as people should have a say in such things, it's just not always the case.

Take our mayor for instance. (whom I didn't vote for BTW, but enough Houstonians obviously did) He took it upon himself to introduce a program called "Safe Clear." Basically, if you break down on a freeway (flat tire or what have you) even if you are on the shoulder, a wrecker comes to tow you off the freeway. You have to pay $75 for this, or they impound your car. It doesn't matter if it's a flat and you're in the middle of fixing it or not. If you refuse the tow, the police come and start handing out citations and you still get your car towed. NOBODY in the city wants it. You can't believe the backlash that has occured because of it. Finally, some of the city council has proposed changes, but they keep delaying a vote, so everyone still gets towed, and still must pay their $75. When a councilwoman was interviewed about it, she said that the plan obviously wasn't thought out well to begin with, so they are trying to do that now. How does it make sense to leave such a poorly thought out plan in place while they takes months to decide what to do? She also said that if you can't afford to pay the $75, then you shouldn't get on the freeway. WTF?!? Bottom line is, the public is voicing it's opinion, but the people at the top who think they know what's best for everyone still isn't listening.
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MiwaSatoshi
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 9:23 pm Reply with quote
Looks like your city has problems with a few megalomaniacs and a lot of apathy sloths. Greeeeat. Confused
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BoygetsfireD



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 9:42 pm Reply with quote
Kazuki-san wrote:
Take our mayor for instance. (whom I didn't vote for BTW, but enough Houstonians obviously did) He took it upon himself to introduce a program called "Safe Clear." Basically, if you break down on a freeway (flat tire or what have you) even if you are on the shoulder, a wrecker comes to tow you off the freeway. You have to pay $75 for this, or they impound your car. It doesn't matter if it's a flat and you're in the middle of fixing it or not. If you refuse the tow, the police come and start handing out citations and you still get your car towed. NOBODY in the city wants it. You can't believe the backlash that has occured because of it. Finally, some of the city council has proposed changes, but they keep delaying a vote, so everyone still gets towed, and still must pay their $75. When a councilwoman was interviewed about it, she said that the plan obviously wasn't thought out well to begin with, so they are trying to do that now. How does it make sense to leave such a poorly thought out plan in place while they takes months to decide what to do? She also said that if you can't afford to pay the $75, then you shouldn't get on the freeway. WTF?!? Bottom line is, the public is voicing it's opinion, but the people at the top who think they know what's best for everyone still isn't listening.


kinda like a local-level version of the Iraq war? Rolling Eyes
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Jkid



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 10:00 pm Reply with quote
MiwaSatoshi wrote:
Can't say Houston hasn't been asking for that sort of jab.

I still have a hard time believing that a city ("the people", if you will) can prosecute and convict a comic book owner of obscenity for selling a magazine to another adult, yet have the highest number of strip bars per capita in the country. It's immensely hypocritical, and essentially, it boils down to a few folks trying to spray their moral codes over everyone else (something I find immensely insulting) without even having the slightest hint of introspection or thought as to what "the people" really want or care about.

Most people I know from Houston *aren't* backwater hicks and are frustrated by their civil and state governments. They're actually VERY COOL PEOPLE.

Here's hoping their voices get heard, rather than the Bravo Sierra spewed by self-righteous hypocrites who insist on "protecting" other adults from stuff they already know about.


It's a bit ironic as well, most Americans are born Christians but the few who ALWAYS go to chruch are the same people who want to impose their moral code to the majority.
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