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ven0m57
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Ok so i have heard many things about Love Hina, i Personaly am a fan, though i guess i can see where those who are iffy on it are coming from. This is what i got from the show/Manga.
As for the English subs, not the best i have ever heard, i know for a fact that Kitsune is 20 yet she sounds like a 45-50 year old wanna be cowgirl. Naru takes way to long to soften up to Keitaro and the whole spoiler[ incest thing with Kanako was kind of weird] Not to mention Keitaro is an annoying charicter in it of itself, but....and yes there is a but there...the show is one of my favorites, because as there are many flaws to the show...its simply funny as heck to me (personal opinion) and granted i have no problem watching Keitaro get his butt kicked every 5 minutes some of the other charicters where very amusing, such as Su or Seta. even Mitsumi was entertaining. though her love for watermelons was a bit strange but thats just my opinion, whats yours? |
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dtm42
Posts: 14084 Location: currently stalking my waifu |
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Love Hina should be cut a little slack, given that it wasn't copying off other series like so many of its successors. However, it should also be cast off the side of a cliff for starting (or at least popularising) the whole "loser-boy-gets-Harem-of-beautiful-girls" genre. I'll never forgive it for that.
For such a ground-breaking series (in terms of what it spawned), there wasn't too much originality in it. It is also a series that hasn't aged very well; what was "fresh" back then is now as stale as can be. Judging Love Hina on its own merits, it doesn't get much better. The violence is senseless, mostly unjustified, and completely disproportionate. The setup is far-fetched, Keitaro needs to seriously get a new backbone, the humour is crass and moronic, and the storylines (from what I've heard, since I haven't finished the series) were clichéd even back then. I'm amazed that there are still fans who like it as it is, and not just because of their nostalgia.* I would apologise for criticising a show you liked, but you did ask for my opinion. My honest opinion, I assume. * Actually, I'm surprised that anyone liked it at all in the first place. Surely the fans back in the nineties were more discerning than that? I watched the first episode before I even knew what Anime was, and I hated it right from the get go. Ughh. |
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ven0m57
Posts: 98 Location: Okinawa, JP |
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very understandable and i apreciate your honest opinion, as the saying goes "to each his own" so again thanks for the opinion and nothing wrong with that =)
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LuckySeven
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Anyways I didn't think it was terrible, I only saw it for the first time summer of last year. I thought it was good for what it was, but as I've said before my main sticking points of contention with it were 1.) Naru herself. Since her Tsundere attitude with Keitaro made you wonder how ANYONE could like her after being treated the way she treated him. 2.) Kitsune's dub voice which made her sound like a 60 year old southern belle, and 3.) the switching back to Japanese for the in-show moments of singing. I'm fine with opening and closing theme songs being in Japanese, but stuff in the context of the actual show, like the episode where Naru briefly became a singing idol just made me go WTF? But all in all those are pretty much my biggest peeves with the show. |
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ven0m57
Posts: 98 Location: Okinawa, JP |
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Ah ok roger that
 Thanks for the imput, and honestly i agree if a woman bet me up like that almost senselessly i would have snapped (not physicaly) but kick her out or something.
As for its age, I know the manga has been out some time, but yea, the anime for it is a bit newer. Though its (wow its friggin 2009  )2009.....  time flies but anyway sorry a lil off topic, i guess some people consider 7-9 years old, well.....old.
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LuckySeven
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Well since it was digitally animated I couldn't really tell how old it was 'til I checked.
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ven0m57
Posts: 98 Location: Okinawa, JP |
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gotcha ok, then if you dont mind my ignorance, isent that how most anime is done?
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LuckySeven
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At the time I think it was the first fully digitally animated anime series when it came out.
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dtm42
Posts: 14084 Location: currently stalking my waifu |
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Once upon a time Anime were made without the help of computers. Unthinkable nowadays, but I swear it's true. |
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ven0m57
Posts: 98 Location: Okinawa, JP |
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Haha ok point taken lol though i would love to see something or a show made that way.
So how was it done prior to fully digital anime? like...dysny kind of stuff or?...what? i guess i just have no clue. lol yes i know ima young'n but now i'm genuinly curios.
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PetrifiedJello
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The best thing regarding this series is its opening theme song. Catchy and vibrant. Too bad it didn't pass itself to the series itself, but my initial opinion: It blows chunks. The premise is decent but Keitaro ruined the whole thing. His character had me pining for one of anime's infamous Japanese drivers, given how much they can kill. Sadly, this wasn't to be, and instead, we had to endure more than 20 episodes of his pathetic situation. Worse, the remaining cast seemed more like paper dolls, active only when needed, which did nothing to improve the story. I sat dumbfounded when every one of them knew of Keitaro's situation, but rather than assist, they'd sooner antagonize. He should have went after Shinobu (who has a crush on him??), or at the very least, Motoko (that, in itself, would have been very entertaining given she's shy around guys). Motoko (the best character) was fun to watch simply for her change in personality throughout the series. Without her, I'd have never made it all the way through the series. I know this series tried for comedy, but it just never got there. For those who are still curious, rent it. There are better titles to spend your money on just in case this series didn't meet your expectations. |
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Sidhardha
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Hum.
Cant seems to udnerstand where all the dislike to Love Hina comming from. It was one of my favourite shows of all time when i seen it first, and i am yet to see the show of same genre that would top it. It was a hit and righteously so. The following Negima! from same mangaca was disappointing after Love Hina, but the LH itself was a blast. I could bring an infinite ammoutn of critique on lots of other anime, but theres nothing i´d complain about Love Hina. I liked it all, and so did people that i was watching it together with. It sure spawned lots of loq quality clones that are released each season until now - but the LH itself was very enterteining and qualitative show in all terms. Yeah, i am probably a fun, having it watching many times and always having a laught, so maybe objective - but then again, the people that claim the show was a failure and given up watching it after one or two episodes cant be taken seriously either. Lets say it seriously: For all good Toratora, Kannagi e.t.c. in those seasons very - i will not rewatch them. But i am sure to keep my Love Hina DVD handy so i can watch it once again someday. |
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The King of Harts
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People here keep talking about how Love Hina spawned a lot of clones, but you could easily argue that Love Hina itself is a clone of Tenchi Muyo. Love Hina was OK for a harem, but Tenchi is the undisputed King of Harems in my book. Love Hina, to me, is the love child of the King (Tenchi) and the Queen (Shuffle!).
While I don't remember much of Love Hina because I haven't seen it in a while and it was one of the first shows I saw when I first got really into anime (I've seen over 150 shows since), I do remember Naru really pissing me off. Not to the point that I hated her, but enough to make me want to smack her around, but most tsunderes make me do that. I don't have any real complaints with Keitaro because he didn't seem that much worse than any other spineless harem lead I've seen. The whole Kitsune "Southern Belle" thing you guys keep bringing up didn't bug me at all. I think that's because I am much more tolerable towards dubs than my fellow anime fans. Also, she needs that southern accent to differentiate her style of talk from everyone else because she was Osakan or at least had the accent. What other accent could you do in a dub to make her sound different? A Brooklyn accent? I don't think so. Did she sound old? A little, but I don't care. Maybe it's because I grew up with people using southern accents. The first time I watched it I gave it an 8/10 because at that time I hadn't seen truly great shows. It had plenty of good laughs, no real gut busting moments, but funny. I think when I do buy it and rewatch, I'll only knock it down to a 7. I've definitely seen shows of much greater enjoyment, but I love harems too much to give this anything lower than a "Good" grade. They are the genre I always fall back on when I don't know what to watch so I have a hard time being rough on them in my grading. I'm pretty sure it has something to do with me growing up with Tenchi Muyo at such an impressionable age. |
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LuckySeven
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Don't get me wrong, I've very forgiving with dubs as well but in this case Kitsune's southern drawl seemed a tad bit overdone. I grew up and still live down south and I honestly never heard anyone that sounded quite like how she did. Compared to the other two complaints I pointed out its the least annoying of the bunch, but still an annoyance in itself.
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nagato316
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My thoughts on the Ken Akamatsu...er, classic? Well, to be sure, Love Hina arrived on the anime scene at the "right time" for it to flourish and become...I suppose you could say "influential," given the prodigious numbers of imitators it inspired.
And if this was the series that put the harem genre on a more prominent place on the anime map (if it didn't outright start the genre)--the show that supposedly sets the standard for "harem" done right--then that doesn't say much for the copycat harem shows that followed the path that Love Hina blazed.
Oh for sure. When something is Keitaro's fault (though not intentionally), Naru sends him "blasting off." When it's not his fault (because he just got back to the Hinata Apts or something), Naru sends him "blasting off again." When he's trying to help Naru, going out of his way to consider her feelings and needs, guess what? Yup, he's "blasting off againnnnnnnn!!" (And yes, I couldn't help but think of Team Rocket every freaking time he was launched.) What does it say when the current poster girl of tsundere, Taiga Aisaka of Toradora, is the paragon of restraint compared to Naru?
Ahh, backbone...another reason why I'm having an easier time with Toradora (yes I realize Toradora is not a harem show): Ryuji will only take so much of Taiga's abuse. Keitaro, OTOH...well I suspect that in a previous life, he had the word "Welcome" embroidered on his chest and was unfurled onto someone's front step. As for the cliches...as I alluded to back on the "What Are You Watching Now?" thread, I've already seen many an embarrassing and fanservicey moment of confusion back when I first saw Ranma 1/2. As such Love Hina brought nothing new to the table for me. (Which begs the question...could Ranma 1/2 be considered a harem show? Or just a fantasy martial arts/genderbending/romantic comedy that merely had elements that would later be recognized as innate to the harem genre? Anyway, moving along...)
I totally understand that the English dub convention for "translating" the Osaka/Kansai accent is to use a Southerrn US accent. I guess the reason I reacted more adversely to English dub Kitsune was that I found her Southern accent more over the top than previous Southern accents I've heard used to represent Kansai. By "over the top," I mean that, to my ears, Kitsune sounded more grating than Ayumu "Osaka" Kasuga from Azumanga Daioh or Arumi Asahina from Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi in the English dubs of these respective series. Listening to Kitsune in English, I couldn't help but wonder, who the heck invited Penelope friggin' Pitstop to the Hinata? All in all, I didn't hate Love Hina...for me it falls somewhere between "meh" and "okay." |
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