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yamiangie
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 Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 12:00 am
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Ok maybe I should leave Fios if they willingly hand over peoples identities so easily. And it looks like that company aren't playing fair in these lawsuites seeing as the crap that comes up when you google them.
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Covnam
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 12:12 am
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If Verizon has already handed over the names, but the judge ordered the identities sealed, does that mean that no future action can be taken against them and whoever verizon gave the information to has to destroy it? Or is it still admissible in court?
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dengart
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 1:07 am
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| Covnam wrote: | | If Verizon has already handed over the names, but the judge ordered the identities sealed, does that mean that no future action can be taken against them and whoever verizon gave the information to has to destroy it? Or is it still admissible in court? |
If the plaintiff and the plaintiff's attorney have destroyed the list of names and the subpoena response they received, what evidence would they have to show who the John Does are?
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Polycell
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 1:44 am
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| yamiangie wrote: | | Ok maybe I should leave Fios if they willingly hand over peoples identities so easily. |
It's worse than that; they'd basically been ordered not to turn over the identities. So not only did they not respect their users' privacy, they broke the law to do it!
Last edited by Polycell on Wed May 23, 2012 8:50 am; edited 1 time in total
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Xanas
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 6:59 am
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I think Verizon probably made an error here in an attempt to comply with the subpoena before the stay. They are likely not doing a good job of keeping up with these kinds of things. The costs of complying with idiotic laws is high.
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Yttrbio
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 7:53 am
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In general, does an ISP have a privacy obligation? I mean, if there was no court case, could they just tell a third party who some of their users were?
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Gilles Poitras
Joined: 05 Apr 2008
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 8:27 am
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| Yttrbio wrote: | | In general, does an ISP have a privacy obligation? I mean, if there was no court case, could they just tell a third party who some of their users were? |
In the US that would depend on state privacy laws.
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Gilles Poitras
Joined: 05 Apr 2008
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 8:29 am
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| Covnam wrote: | | If Verizon has already handed over the names, but the judge ordered the identities sealed, does that mean that no future action can be taken against them and whoever verizon gave the information to has to destroy it? Or is it still admissible in court? |
Probably still admissible depending on how the case goes.
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TsukasaElkKite
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 7:19 pm
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THIS is why I stopped torrenting.
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yamiangie
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 9:08 pm
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| TsukasaElkKite wrote: | | THIS is why I stopped torrenting. |
Well I don't torrent my stupid brother does. Most anime isn't worth my internet as a whole.
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