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reichan
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many people are debating not that the man violated his parole (that's pretty much an open and shut case, evidence is heavily stacked against him), but about the idea of child pornography. |
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Shinotaku14
Encyclopedia Editor
 Posts: 233 Location: Greenville or Rock Hill, SC |
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Yes, I am aware of that, but what I was refering to is the peope who are still freaking out about Anime or Hentai or even Loli being "Outlawed" or "Banned". That isn't going to happen. It doesn't matter. They just need to read closer, and pay attention. |
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ChaosAxess
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This guy is pretty sick... He deserves to be thrown away after a charge like this...
For the record, I don't think they'll ban hentai. With how well the manga market does, there is no way they'll ban the manga with questionable themes in them, too. |
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pyr3sayz
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Maybe not on a wide scale Federal level, but the locals in Bible-thumper country will try their darndest to rid the world of 'evil', while they spend time with their mistresses. Hehe. |
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Shiki MSHTS
 Posts: 738 Location: NoVA |
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First of all, I apoligize, as the first half of my post was kinda unprofessional and personal (I know, I read over it), though it kinda still states my viewpoint. If nothing has ever has a natural right or wrong sense to it, then what conditions society? I know you weren't trying to pick an arguement, but if nothing ever has a natural right or wrong to it, that statement in itself, cannot hold as being a correct statement, as it denying right or wrong denies correctness, which denies it's own existance, or at least purpose. |
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reichan
Posts: 8 Location: Anaheim, CA |
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i may be wrong in the sense of admitting that there is no natural right or wrong to it; what i meant was that society tends to bend the extremities of right and wrong in order for them to achieve what in their right mind, is right. take the "hentai outlawing" idea which shinotaku referred to. society made that decision as a collective saying that they would like to see, in one shape or form, banned from being seen. who decided that the idea that sexual activity be an obcene thing in the first place? once we started to see mass media of sexual activity, and countless people getting caught in public "quickies", society frowned upon it, and all variations that were associated with it. society tends to change face (for lack of a better term) as times change and events arise sponatiously. this shows society as a self conditioning collective.
shinotaku - didn't mean to go all "gung-ho" on you or anything... ><" shiki - thanks for pointing that out; i learned that there can never be enough clarification when explainign something, and also what you said... ^^ |
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Shiki MSHTS
Posts: 738 Location: NoVA |
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When you put it that way, oh yes, I think it's true. Popular culture does tend to bend and shape morals and rights and wrongs to suit it's needs. That, I agree with you on. ^^; |
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AlDim
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This is an utterly ignorant statement. Art encompasses a lot more than a visual experience. Music is art. Painting is art. Literature is art. |
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Stueypark
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Baking is an art, bus driving is an art, walking is an art, verse is an art, anything is technically art when the definition is "Human effort to imitate, supplement, alter, or counteract the work of nature"
Which is essentially the act of doing, or not doing, anything. I still stand by my statement that it isn't a true artform though, because it is defined by its innate charecteristics, story, characters, interactions, etc, rather than its physical characteristics of sight and sound. Last edited by Stueypark on Tue Mar 29, 2005 4:58 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Haru to Ashura
 Posts: 617 Location: Termina |
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Agreed. My favorite definition of art is that of Scott McCloud's. In his book Understanding Comics, (great book, by the way) he states that art is anything that isn't a basic human instinct. I.e. Hunger, Power, Sexual fullfillment, physical comfort (like protection from the enviorment, keeping warm in the cold, etc.) and just our overall survival. Anything divine, unessessary to living, and abstract in thought - romance, painting, fashion, giving gifts, politics and socialims - is art. Broad enough? :) As for the matter whether loli comics should be banned, simple enough, this is America. And in America, majority rules, whether you like it or not. Call them what you like - Christians, bible-thumpers, extremists, old-fashioned - but they're still the majority, plain and simple. If the majority think it's wrong, then it willl stay wrong until the majority changes their opinion. In this matter, I don't think anyone's opinions are going to be swayed anytime soon. Sorry to be so blatant, but all of this argueing is useless. |
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mangod
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He should have been doing his work instead of looking at little naked animated girls.
 Ranma 1/2, and pornography are to different things. Then again it's not like he was looking at real children being abused.
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reichan
Posts: 8 Location: Anaheim, CA |
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whoo!! i learned how to finally use the quote feature *thumbs up*... oh yeah! =) but thats so true. not just america and society, but all groups of forms where majority and minority can exist, will control go to the majority. |
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Kujira
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I am a Japanese just registared to say this. Back in the hisory, the majority of Japanese populartion had supported the emperor during Japanese occupation/genocide in Asian nations. So, now, people say it takes more than just being majority to be "right". That's what free speech is all about. It is to give minority chance to speak. Majority speaks out anyway. America is what installed the idea of free speech in Japan. |
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bigbigtruck
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Anyone stupid enough to look for porn on a public computer shouldn't be out and about anyhow.
Either way, it's another (wannabe) kiddie fiddler away from society, so it's all good imo. 
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Mexicanime86
 Posts: 135 Location: Dallas, TX |
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Here are my thoughts.
1. Any who violates his parole should get punished. The guy wasn't suppossed to have any kind of porn in his possession, no matter the content, and thats why his being prosecuted. It's not because it was "loli", but because he wasn't to supposed to have any porn, period. 2. If a person gets ahold of "questionable" material, such as snuff, horror flicks, porn, etc., it doesn't mean that its because of them that they will commit a crime. They probably already had the idea to commit the crime, and only use the video, book, etc., as a substitute to excite themselves before or use it work up themselves up before commiting the act. It's bull if they say that "a movie, or game made me do it". There just looking to get out of trouble by blaming someone else. 3.(last one) If anime depicting children being raped, or in sexual situations is or is going to be illegal, then 90% of hentai will become illegal. Most of it shows 15, 16, 17 year-olds, and even younger kids, in sexual acts which would be considered wrong by anyone if it was real. But since it's not then it should be allowed in order to keep pedophiles satisfied and to keep them from actually commiting crimes. But then if someone who has a sexually violent fetish, and will molest again, then they should just be banned from any and all forms of prono. (maybe if Michael Jackson had some, then he wouldn't have done what he alledgely did.) |
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