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EP. REVIEW: Shangri-La Frontier Season 2


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doomrider7



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2024 11:26 am Reply with quote
Ruhrpottpatriot wrote:
Is the attention span of reviewers so short that they can't stomach a 2 or 3 episode long intermediate arc that, most likely sets up another player for the guild in SF? It's super clear that Rust and Mordo are two players who are going to join the guild later on and probably going to pilot the mecha's since Sunraku simply can't because of his curse.


I'm not even sure why the admins dumped a series this absolutely amazing on his lap to waste for a second time since it's clear that they have no idea what they're watching or how to interact with it. The contrast in opinions on here from them vs Reddit or anywhere else for that matter are ASTOUNDING. It's like the reviewer has never played videogames or interacted in their entire life or something.

Edit: Same goes for most of the comments. Like MAN you people just don't know how to just sit back and just let a show be a show and every little thing needs to be spoonfed to you ASAP in a timely fashion lest you forget in the interim of an episode or two what was going on. It's why so much of media just dies on the vine and HAS TO SHOTGUN BLAST YOU the story to face with little to no actual thought to anything purely because of the fear of losing the very clearly limited attention span we're working with here.
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Greed1914



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:53 pm Reply with quote
Covnam wrote:
I didn't mind jumping into another game for an episode for a change of pace, but now that it's going to be at least three episodes it is disappointing. I'm just not really interested in this side story that doesn't seem like it will add much. Not saying the content is bad or anything, I just want to get back to SLF.


Same. I appreciated the accuracy of hopping into a different game when the current one is being frustrating. I went into Elden Ring thinking I might have to do that, but also never got frustrated. However, it felt risky from narrative standpoint to do that in the first place, let alone across three episodes. While I could related, and understood why it was there as a gamer, I'm also watching a tv series that only has so much screen time available to it. The episodes themselves were entertaining, and I expect that it will have some relevance eventually, but right now, it was something that felt like it accomplished what it needed within 1/2-1 episode.
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GhostOfShowsPast



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:20 pm Reply with quote
I agree Psyger-0 is such a nothing character, I really hope they don't end up together as she is completely forgettable and uninteresting.
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NeverConvex
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 5:24 pm Reply with quote
It is kind've weird how little they've done with her, really. Even the only recently introduced competitor-pilot lady has more texture than his since-episode-0 stalker.
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Cardcaptor Takato



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 6:44 pm Reply with quote
doomrider7 wrote:

I'm not even sure why the admins dumped a series this absolutely amazing on his lap to waste for a second time since it's clear that they have no idea what they're watching or how to interact with it. The contrast in opinions on here from them vs Reddit or anywhere else for that matter are ASTOUNDING. It's like the reviewer has never played videogames or interacted in their entire life or something.

It's almost like human beings have different tastes and opinions on cartoons and the purpose of a review is to critique something and not just serve as propaganda for the anime industry.
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Minos_Kurumada



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:34 pm Reply with quote
I can't get mad at this series, it's just a silly uncomplicated plot about a group of guys trying to win a game.

It has no aspirations beyond that and shows nothing but the wish of having cool fights and relatable "RNG sucks" moments, I appreciate the honesty.
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be_low



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 4:50 pm Reply with quote
Cardcaptor Takato wrote:
doomrider7 wrote:

I'm not even sure why the admins dumped a series this absolutely amazing on his lap to waste for a second time since it's clear that they have no idea what they're watching or how to interact with it. The contrast in opinions on here from them vs Reddit or anywhere else for that matter are ASTOUNDING. It's like the reviewer has never played videogames or interacted in their entire life or something.

It's almost like human beings have different tastes and opinions on cartoons and the purpose of a review is to critique something and not just serve as propaganda for the anime industry.


Nah. ANN, at least the past few years, has had this habit of assigning shows to reviewers who flat out dislike the genre and its target demo. Can't even play the "I am doing a general review for regular viewers, not a review aimed niche genre demo fans" because this is never done with the genres/demos that the current crop of ANN reviewers likes and wants to see more made.

This isn't as big an issue as it used to be, because now the ANN readership more closely reflects the ANN reviewers (to wit animenewsnetwork.com/aftershow/2024-12-02/.218516 ... in times past this would have gotten A LOT more comments in disagreement). Result: the shows that win the review polls are stuff that the reviewers are going to view far more favorably. Example: this season all magical girl adjacent shows made the cut, as did the "ace romcom" 365 Days to the Wedding, the "Christianity is the worst thing ever" show Orb on the Movements of the Earth, the villainess and other shojo shows but none of the more straightforward shonen shows outside the major franchises despite those being the shows that most normies actually watch. But definitely, 3-5 years ago something like Arifuta Season 3, Tying the Knot with an Amagami Sister or some other combination of "young male power fantasy" and "pretty girl fanservice" would have made the cut and been assigned to someone who spent all 12 episodes bashing the show and the people who watch it for merely existing. That is unless the "pretty girl fanservice" is in a yuri show like Gushing Over Magical Girls. That gets it put on the "best show of the year" list. The review comments were filled with "why does ANN keep assigning ecchi harem isekai shows to reviewers who hate all 3?" back then. They even did a few "all this criticism is unfair, see we don't hate isekai and fanservice because we like High School DxD and Re:Zero!" columns to address all the comments.

But all you need to do is go back to the season previews and see "ugh not another show with JRPG mechanics!" written about 100 times. (Never mind that among normies, video game fandom and anime fandom are joined at the hip and the only reason why the two industries aren't closer is because no one has cracked the code on consistently making good anime adaptations of video games.) Based on that, "It's like the reviewer has never played videogames" is probably not far off, and the same for ANN commenters that now mostly reflect the reviewers.
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Cardcaptor Takato



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2024 7:23 pm Reply with quote
The majority of the reviews for this show have been positive but yeah totally he’s just a hater. Rolling Eyes
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InfiniteNothingness



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 13, 2024 8:09 pm Reply with quote
be_low wrote:
Nah. ANN, at least the past few years, has had this habit of assigning shows to reviewers who flat out dislike the genre and its target demo. Can't even play the "I am doing a general review for regular viewers, not a review aimed niche genre demo fans" because this is never done with the genres/demos that the current crop of ANN reviewers likes and wants to see more made.

You don't need to look far or search hard to find multiple, explicit remarks from past and present staff, about how this is not the case: They're not forced into it (equally applies to the TWIA column), and to no surprise Loveridge isn't in the habit of assigning people things they hate. For some reason. Fair shake doesn't guarantee positivity or consistent praise despite initial enthusiasm (I think of Beckett with Tearmoon Empire which I found utterly agreeable, sadly), or Jones' up-and-down reviews of Metallic Rouge for easy recent examples). Also, reviewers don't influence what gets reviewed so much as who reviews what amongst what is to be divvied up, seasonal polls, and assorted other data do. No way on this planet or another one Beckett would have chosen to review The Fruit of Evolution otherwise. For as much as I've disagreed with countless staff over time (as is the nature of it all), I see little reason to buy any of this. I'm pretty sure all involved would actually rather enjoy their job.

(Obviously, that doesn't mean I've never been disappointed in a review, or again, disagreed in even major strokes.)

Equally worth mentioning AJ has actually professed themselves a gamer repeatedly through both seasons of reviewing this. Take issue with the reviews, sure, but I don't see a reason to throw that into question generally; on top of all of that there's a link to their Twitch under every review and I am even listening to them talk about Game Awards stuff right now lol.
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jr240483



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 7:00 pm Reply with quote
GhostOfShowsPast wrote:
I agree Psyger-0 is such a nothing character, I really hope they don't end up together as she is completely forgettable and uninteresting.


Her involvement in the plot of the series is just as important as the night emperor!

after all the only reason that sunraku even tried out SLF was due to the encouragement of the lady that owns his favourite gaming store.

in addition, the main reason that she even did that was to help out rei / psyger 0 to confess her feelings to sunraku in said game! (WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED IF THEIR RELATED)


also its pretty clear that the author is a DIE HARD naruto fan.

rei is basically the SLF version of hinata huguya for their similarities and personalities are so uncanny its more ir less laughable when you think about it!

Laughing
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doomrider7



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2024 10:45 am Reply with quote
Cardcaptor Takato wrote:
The majority of the reviews for this show have been positive but yeah totally he’s just a hater. Rolling Eyes


If this is positive reviewing, I can't even imagine what their negative reviews look like. Like DAMN the contempt and disdain this series gets from "anime fans" is wild especially compared to some of the schlock that seems to pass on here.
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NeverConvex
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2024 11:38 am Reply with quote
"contempt and disdain", lol.

MrAJCosplay wrote:
I must say, the end of this episode definitely grabbed me by the balls. Was anyone else expecting that to happen?


Completely caught me off-guard, too, and share the feeling of anticipation. After narratively coasting for a while it's a really welcome development.
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doomrider7



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2024 5:58 pm Reply with quote
NeverConvex wrote:
"contempt and disdain", lol.

MrAJCosplay wrote:
I must say, the end of this episode definitely grabbed me by the balls. Was anyone else expecting that to happen?


Completely caught me off-guard, too, and share the feeling of anticipation. After narratively coasting for a while it's a really welcome development.


Love the lol at the end especially with your last part about "narratively coasting comment" like that's not EXACTLY what I'm talking about. Laughing

Edit: Given the next arc, this comment section is gonna absolutely hilarious salted gold. spoiler[Same for a lot of the dislike and salt about Rei/Psyger-0.]
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NeverConvex
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 22, 2024 6:43 am Reply with quote
Episode 36 was pretty solid. A deeply needed bit of texture for spoiler[stalker girl's character, and her relationship with Sunraku], and it's fun spoiler[seeing our original colossus back in action, and learning a bit more about its combat patterns.] The scene with spoiler[the SF Zoo leader dying did remind me why I almost always wish these kinds of virtual-world series were instead set in the real world -- that extended death scene could have been gutting, but knowing it's just an avatar takes the oomph out of it.] Surprised that spoiler[you can entirely incapacitate even major boss mobs purely through debuffs; most games go out of their way to limit how effective debuffs can be. Though, I suppose SLF colossi bosses are broken in enough ways that it doesn't really matter.]
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Hiroki not Takuya



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 22, 2024 2:12 pm Reply with quote
With all the talk about Psyger-0/Rei Saiga being a non-character and having the possible romance interest present for nothing, it's great to see these two share a common love of gaming and make thier "fake date" turn into a real in-game adventure fest taking on Lycagon together. I'd say the writer seems to have been holding her in reserve to spark a new character-driven arc along with the overall gaming story...
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