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ANN_Lynzee
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 3:40 pm Reply with quote
Daily Streaming assignments are based on more than just the poll results. I also factor in actual website traffic, individual reviewers requests, and how interesting week to week reviews would be to read compared to a full season review. I don't look at community scores much because that specific voting pool is too small for my purposes.

I have been trying with Precure since the show began simulcasting. Regardless, it regularly performs poorly both in the poll and in traffic. Precure fans don't seem to be reading the episode reviews, or the fandom is a small bit passionate minority. There are other shows that do okay in the poll but are low in traffic or would be a chore to write about weekly.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 4:04 pm Reply with quote
Huh, everything I voted for got in, that's a first. I'm especially happy about Blue Lock continuing, that show is such a pleasant surprise (for me), and it's cool to see it not fall off the radar, especially now that it decided to bring in the weirdos.

I'm also curious to see what the reviewer will make of Revenger, because after episode two I honestly can't tell if the show wants me to take it seriously or not...


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Besides, episodic comedies commonly don't have a lot of staying power when it comes to episode reviews around here. People generally start realizing that there isn't a whole lot to say about them week-to-week even if they are fun to watch. (Something like Isekai Quartet - where there are all sorts of in-jokes and series references to talk about - is a notable exception.)


Good point, there is probably not that much to say/review about shows like Nagatoro on a weekly basis. I’m glad Fire Hunter made it, because that one is pretty hard to understand, i had to watch the first episode twice and will be looking forward for those reviews to provide some needed clarity.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 4:08 pm Reply with quote
Pretty Cure deserves better because it tells its audience to never lose hope, and that is so important, especially these days. Some anime (particularly the darker stuff) seem to revel in despair, and I don’t think that’s very good for people.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 4:20 pm Reply with quote
Saeryen wrote:
Pretty Cure deserves better because it tells its audience to never lose hope, and that is so important, especially these days. Some anime (particularly the darker stuff) seem to revel in despair, and I don’t think that’s very good for people.


I mean, I agree with you and that's what drew me to magical girls in the first place, but I've learned that everyone finds hope in different ways. For some people, fictional despair doesn't hit as hard, and I know a few who like dark stories because it puts their own troubles in perspective.

Regardless of whether it gets episode reviews or not, I'll still be writing PreCure reviews, so we can enjoy them together - you, me, and my cat Kathryn who always sits on my lap when I'm watching it. (And IDOLiSH7. She has very specific taste.)
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 4:25 pm Reply with quote
ANN_Lynzee wrote:
Daily Streaming assignments are based on more than just the poll results. I also factor in actual website traffic, individual reviewers requests, and how interesting week to week reviews would be to read compared to a full season review. I don't look at community scores much because that specific voting pool is too small for my purposes.

I have been trying with Precure since the show began simulcasting. Regardless, it regularly performs poorly both in the poll and in traffic. Precure fans don't seem to be reading the episode reviews, or the fandom is a small bit passionate minority. There are other shows that do okay in the poll but are low in traffic or would be a chore to write about weekly.

Oh, I wasn't intending to imply that Community Score had anything to do with the decision-making process; in fact, I'm not surprised to hear that it doesn't.

However, I've been looking at how Community Scores correlate (or not) to titles getting picked up for episode reviews as a matter of personal interest ever since ANN started making those scores public. Overall, there's a fairly strong correlation, which breaks down as follows for newly-debuting titles

CS of 4.2+ - Always makes the cut. (If one of these has ever failed, I don't remember it.)
CS of 3.9-4.1 - Nearly always makes the cut.
CS of 3.6-3.8 - Usually makes the cut, but less certain.
CS of 3.3-3.5 - Sometimes makes the cut.
CS of 3.2 or lower - Rarely makes the cut. Usually only happens with titles which have gained a degree of infamy. (See EX-ARM.)

I think this correlation happens in part because most people, rather than rating critically, tend to vote more with "how likely am I to watch more" in mind, whether they admit it or not. (Again, infamous titles are the exception on this.) This correlation does not hold with sequels/returning titles because other factors - such as the "small but passionate fan base" - can be in play.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 4:36 pm Reply with quote
I'm quite surprised to see Tsurune S2 made the cut. I'm a diehard fan. But from what I gather, the series is not nearly as popular as other KyoAni productions, which makes the sequel season less likely to get covered. I voted yes in the poll but wasn't expecting it to get chosen at all, so this was a nice surprise. Nevertheless, the two episodes that have aired so far are of exceptional quality and really showcased what the current KyoAni is capable of. Will be checking out the review for sure.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 4:40 pm Reply with quote
Key wrote:

I think this correlation happens in part because most people, rather than rating critically, tend to vote more with "how likely am I to watch more" in mind, whether they admit it or not. (Again, infamous titles are the exception on this.) This correlation does not hold with sequels/returning titles because other factors - such as the "small but passionate fan base" - can be in play.

I mean this doesn't hold up to any scrutiny. It's the same problem with ascribing intention to review scores without reading the words of the reviews. We have no idea if people are voting because they are watching a show, or because they aren't watching but want a way to keep up with it, or are voting with no intention to watch and want to see a reviewer deal with something bad because that in itself is a form of entertainment to them. It has no relation to how much the community likes or dislikes something when it's just numbers, especially when it's attempted to be put into context to contrast lower preview scores. Without context, which I know you don't have, the higher votes on those series are just as likely a positive correlation to the preview guide and how the writers felt and wanting more of the same about it. So it's not exceptions or outliers if you're just working from a wrongly assumed angle to begin with.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 4:43 pm Reply with quote
Princess_Irene wrote:
Saeryen wrote:
Pretty Cure deserves better because it tells its audience to never lose hope, and that is so important, especially these days. Some anime (particularly the darker stuff) seem to revel in despair, and I don’t think that’s very good for people.


I mean, I agree with you and that's what drew me to magical girls in the first place, but I've learned that everyone finds hope in different ways. For some people, fictional despair doesn't hit as hard, and I know a few who like dark stories because it puts their own troubles in perspective.

Indeed! Personally I'm one of these people - when I'm in a bad place I can't handle bright, hopeful stories. Not because I want to wallow in despair (I avoid stories that do that, as well as anything I have a strong emotional reaction to), it's just that when I'm in that state of mind darker things give me perspective, comfort and a kind of emotional release. It's kind of like with music, some people listen to bright, fun music when they're down to cheer themselves up, others like me turn to dark, sad music to find comfort and a sort of commiseration.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 4:56 pm Reply with quote
ATastySub wrote:
We have no idea if people are voting because they are watching a show, or because they aren't watching but want a way to keep up with it, or are voting with no intention to watch and want to see a reviewer deal with something bad because that in itself is a form of entertainment to them.


Personally, I vote for shows I'm watching or would like to watch (but can't fit in my schedule.) I've had to do the equivalent of hate-watching for my job, and I wouldn't want to subject anyone else to it.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 5:03 pm Reply with quote
SHD wrote:
Princess_Irene wrote:
I mean, I agree with you and that's what drew me to magical girls in the first place, but I've learned that everyone finds hope in different ways. For some people, fictional despair doesn't hit as hard, and I know a few who like dark stories because it puts their own troubles in perspective.

Indeed! Personally I'm one of these people - when I'm in a bad place I can't handle bright, hopeful stories. Not because I want to wallow in despair (I avoid stories that do that, as well as anything I have a strong emotional reaction to), it's just that when I'm in that state of mind darker things give me perspective, comfort and a kind of emotional release. It's kind of like with music, some people listen to bright, fun music when they're down to cheer themselves up, others like me turn to dark, sad music to find comfort and a sort of commiseration.

That is some nice perspective, and as someone who likes a lot of moods in music I see where you’re coming from, thanks. In anime I still prefer the hopeful stuff but again, I can understand you, SHD.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 6:28 pm Reply with quote
Key wrote:

CS of 3.2 or lower - Rarely makes the cut. Usually only happens with titles which have gained a degree of infamy. (See EX-ARM.)


If I recall correctly, that particular example was a collective, willful act on the community's part to punish Nicholas(I think I also voted for it). Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 6:59 pm Reply with quote
I a shocked that "Ippon" Again! made the review cut, as SOL/CGDCT shows typically do not garner much interest.

N.B. I voted for "Ippon" Again! and expect it to be my personal favorite of the season.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 8:30 pm Reply with quote
Key wrote:
Gem-Bug wrote:
... I didn't think there was so much competition this season.

This season is nowhere near as robust as last season for heavy-hitters, but it feels well-stocked in the middle of the quality scale, so it's denser than it initially looked. (I am currently considering following well more titles than I can probably manage to keep up with week-to-week, though only a handful ... are must-keeps.)
...

This is exactly how I feel about this season. Few shows have me definitely hooked; many, many shows seem interesting or have potential. A couple genres I usually skip (sports and male idols) have put up unusually strong contenders this season. I'm looking at another week of 29+3+3 (new/sequel/continuing) shows until the three-episode cut.

By the way, I miss your weekly reviews, Key.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 9:28 pm Reply with quote
Surprised and disappointed that Nagatoro 2nd Attack failed to make the cut, but considering how off-balance the episode release schedule has proven to be since ABEMA's surprise double-episode broadcast on season premiere day, I can at the very least understand it on a spiritual level.
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