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NEWS: Yu-Gi-Oh Manga Creator Kazuki Takahashi Passes Away at 60


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Juno016



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:58 pm Reply with quote
I wasn't crazy into the card game or anime, but I did have the pleasure of reading the manga ages ago and I really liked it. Much more mature than I expected from a huge kid's franchise. Sad to see another legacy disappear. ):

Btw, if you hear anything about a "shark attack", be careful not to misrepresent what was reported. Police found his body had shark bites in his lower abdomen, as well as other marine life scars, but the autopsy suggested he had passed away at sea about a day or two before he was found, so a lot of those scars are probably post-mortem from curious wildlife, not necessarily the cause of death.
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tintor2



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:08 pm Reply with quote
Juno016 wrote:
I wasn't crazy into the card game or anime, but I did have the pleasure of reading the manga ages ago and I really liked it. Much more mature than I expected from a huge kid's franchise. Sad to see another legacy disappear. ):

Btw, if you hear anything about a "shark attack", be careful not to misrepresent what was reported. Police found his body had shark bites in his lower abdomen, as well as other marine life scars, but the autopsy suggested he had passed away at sea about a day or two before he was found, so a lot of those scars are probably post-mortem from curious wildlife, not necessarily the cause of death.


Yeah, people are jumping the gun with a description. According to a more accurate translation there was no such thing involving a shark.
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MFrontier



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 5:33 pm Reply with quote
This...this is an utter punch in the gut.

Yu-Gi-Oh! was such a huge part of my childhood and got me into the whole card game phenomenon and I've followed it from every spinoff, new season, and variant of the game and series to this very day. And I still remember religiously watching the original Dual Monsters anime as a kid.

And to have him go out like this...he deserved so much better.

RIP Takahashi-san. Thank you for all that you did as a creator and mangaka, from coming up with such an amazing franchise with so many great designs/characters, to in general just being who you are. Your legacy will live on.
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CelticMutt



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:37 pm Reply with quote
Juno016 wrote:
I wasn't crazy into the card game or anime, but I did have the pleasure of reading the manga ages ago and I really liked it. Much more mature than I expected from a huge kid's franchise. Sad to see another legacy disappear. ):

Btw, if you hear anything about a "shark attack", be careful not to misrepresent what was reported. Police found his body had shark bites in his lower abdomen, as well as other marine life scars, but the autopsy suggested he had passed away at sea about a day or two before he was found, so a lot of those scars are probably post-mortem from curious wildlife, not necessarily the cause of death.


Yes. Shark attacks on living humans are very rare. Yes they happen, but it's usually less than a hundred a year. OTOH, sharks biting a dead body are far more likely. I'd call it more common, but I really don't want to google yearly ocean drownings ...
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Hagaren Viper



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KabaKabaFruit wrote:
I sincerely hope that people will remember Takahashi as a storyteller first and a commercialist second. I still think it's BS that nearly everyone's first exposure to Takahashi was through the awful 4Kids dub of Yu-Gi-Oh!, with the old adage of first impressions and all. Confused


To be completely fair, the original anime wasn't 100% unfiltered Takahashi either. The adaption from manga to anime had so much censorship, removal or death, changed motivations, rewrites and more blatant merchandise cash-ins that 4Kids could have only dreamed of doing - especially concerning the last arc. And that's not even taking the filler into consideration! There's definitely a time and place to talk about that and 4Kids's treatment of the franchise as well, but I think it says something that despite the giant game of Yugioh telephone going on, Takahashi's works were able to reach people, inspire them and bring them together no matter what version they enjoyed. I think that speaks a lot to his strength as a creator.

That said, this one hurts hard. I've been a fan since the dub came out in the States and I've revisited it and the manga countless times ever since. The way he died is so frustratingly sad. If nothing else, it's been great to scroll from social media and see so much of his art, some stories here and there, what people have taken from his work. The man left one heck of an impression for sure.
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AmpersandsUnited



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:32 pm Reply with quote
Hagaren Viper wrote:
To be completely fair, the original anime wasn't 100% unfiltered Takahashi either. The adaption from manga to anime had so much censorship, removal or death, changed motivations, rewrites and more blatant merchandise cash-ins that 4Kids could have only dreamed of doing - especially concerning the last arc. And that's not even taking the filler into consideration!


Yu-Gi-Oh's legacy is a bit of a tragic story from Takahashi's point of view. He wrote numerous entries in the bunkoban release about how it went over the years and the numerous times his series was almost cancelled when the card games were not the focus. The initial non-card game portion of the series was not popular and the series only avoided cancellation by him bringing back Kaiba and the card game. During the final arc he was repeatedly told by his editors that the series popularity had tanked since Battle City until he was eventually told to wrap up the series in a few weeks because it was cancelled, which is why the manga ending is a bit rushed. It certainly didn't help that was around the time Takahashi was hospitalized for medical issues The anime basically goes out of its way to alleviate all those concerns from the get-go like skipping over most pre-Duelist Kingdom stuff and adapting the rest into the show in other ways and adding more card games to the final arc. It may not have been Takahashi's original vision but it was the Yu-Gi-Oh his readership and fans wanted.

He had no input in the later anime series outside designing some of the characters . So to people worried about there being no more YGO anime that won't be the case as Takahashi hasn't really had much input on them to begin with. That's all on Konami, TV Tokyo, and Gallop/Bridge. I am a bit curious to see what if any changes will happen with the card game though since there were a couple mandates Takahashi had (no censoring his artwork for one, lack of cash prizes for official tournaments being another). We'll see if Konami keeps honoring those mandates or not.
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Zeino



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:15 pm Reply with quote
“Man decays, his corpse is dust. All his kin have perished; But a book makes him remembered through the mouth of its reciter.” - The Immortality of Writers (Papyrus Chester Beatty IV)

Rest in Peace, Kazuki Takahashi. You created something really great and enduring that will forever be a cornerstone of popular culture, and a franchise that will forever be synonymous with card games. Yu-Gi-Oh may not have been the Pokemon killer some people predicted, but it proved it had the same staying power.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:52 pm Reply with quote
Hagaren Viper wrote:
To be completely fair, the original anime wasn't 100% unfiltered Takahashi either. The adaption from manga to anime had so much censorship, removal or death, changed motivations, rewrites and more blatant merchandise cash-ins that 4Kids could have only dreamed of doing - especially concerning the last arc. And that's not even taking the filler into consideration! There's definitely a time and place to talk about that and 4Kids's treatment of the franchise as well, but I think it says something that despite the giant game of Yugioh telephone going on, Takahashi's works were able to reach people, inspire them and bring them together no matter what version they enjoyed. I think that speaks a lot to his strength as a creator.
I'm well aware of the original changes to the anime from the manga in the Japanese version. However, even with the changes, the Japanese version struck a balance between telling a deep story and selling a game. The 4Kids version gave off a blatant impression to viewers that it's designed to be nothing but a cash-in for the sole purpose of being a cash-in with any story development and themes of friendship being overblown to the point of mockery which wasn't a good first impression for Takahashi in the eyes of American viewers, especially during a time where anime was still evolving during its boom period. The show and its game brought people together here, but not without 4Kids acting like they've taken full credit for Takahashi's vision. Duel Monsters ISN'T a 4Kids creation, Duel Monsters is Kazuki Takahashi's creation licensed out to Konami and promoted through 4Kids. You give credit where it's due.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:24 pm Reply with quote
For those that can read Japanese, did any of the news reports say what might have killed him?
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Donkey-er



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 12:23 am Reply with quote
May he rest in peace.

I really look back on my childhood memories involving Yu-Gi-Oh!, watching the anime, collecting the cards, and playing the game.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 2:01 am Reply with quote
Shocked Well s---. Hasn't been that long since Kentaro Miura passed and now this. And while I'm in the middle of watching the Japanese version of the Anime.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:35 am Reply with quote
BadNewsBlues wrote:
People back in the day discovered GoLions, Gatchaman, Macross, and SB Yamato through Voltron, Battle Of The Planets, Robotech, & Star Blazers.

It’s certainly dumb that many of us were exposed to the series through a needlessly edited, Americanized, and janky voiced dub but it is what it is.
Perhaps, and in retrospect, it does feel kind of pathetic in a way all things considered based on the intent of the licensees. For those Americanized versions of the properties, I still stand firm that they were popular for all the wrong reasons. It is VERY fortunate that those people who discovered the Japanese originals managed to do so especially considering the lack of Internet back in those days.
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StarDango



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:29 am Reply with quote
Can we not bring up 4Kids, the YuGiOh dub, and all the negative criticisms about it here? Yes, it was Takahashi’s franchise but this is about his death. Not about what a company did decades ago that, relatively speaking, few people take that seriously/personally.

Plus it’s not like the anime was the only way people were exposed to YuGiOh. The manga was translated and published too, with everything (including the names) intact. Honestly, if people want Takahashi’s YuGiOh, they only need to read the manga. Even the Japanese anime changed, watered down, and censored a lot of things. So yeah, anyone reading this should definitely read the manga.

Anyway….

Between the death of Miura, the death of Billy Kametz, and now this…There are no words for how depressed I am. As far as the anime community goes, Takahashi was one of the creators that inspired me when I was a kid. And he still does as an artist. Losing him is a great loss to world of TCG illustrations. And worse, the details we have make it seem like what happens to Takahashi was a complete accident.

Takahashi was an amazing artist whose style and creations will never be forgotten. Even though the franchise has moved away from the original story, it will be Takahashi‘a series forever. If you haven’t been interested in YuGiOh since childhood, I highly recommend looking up Takahashi’s new artwork for the franchise that was released in a special art book a few years ago. It really demonstrates his skills as an artist and how much he has improved over the years.

People can’t help but see YuGiOh as a kid’s franchise (even in Japan, since the new anime installments are progressively getting more kid-friendly.) But Takahashi’s artwork really is beyond that.

Sorry that I’m rambling. I just adore this man’s work. RIP Takahashi. You’re the true king of games. And wherever you are now, I hope you’re having fun.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2022 12:09 pm Reply with quote
StarDango wrote:
Can we not bring up 4Kids, the YuGiOh dub, and all the negative criticisms about it here? Yes, it was Takahashi’s franchise but this is about his death. Not about what a company did decades ago that, relatively speaking, few people take that seriously/personally.
No discussion regarding Takahashi's legacy can ever be brought up without mentioning 4Kids in some form or fashion, especially when their version was the first many Americans had seen to anything Takahashi. It's not disrespecting Takahashi in any way. Plus, nobody is taking the 4Kids dub personally. The criticism is merely constructive.
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Plus it’s not like the anime was the only way people were exposed to YuGiOh. The manga was translated and published too, with everything (including the names) intact. Honestly, if people want Takahashi’s YuGiOh, they only need to read the manga. Even the Japanese anime changed, watered down, and censored a lot of things. So yeah, anyone reading this should definitely read the manga.
The official translation of the manga does not honor all Japanese terminology. Later issues were changed to reflect the terminology of the 4Kids series, which some may argue is a good business decision, it's not for those who want an authentic experience, which will only drive them to scanlations.
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Kaoru G



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Rest in peace sensei!!
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