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Why Doesn't Stroker and Hoop Classify as Anime?

However typical white guys trying to be black can't pass off as black because of genetic issues (a good point with a bad analogy).

thats where i disagree. Good argument but someday something may come along where you may not even be able to tell the diffrence by looking, and will feel totally betrayed to learn the awful truth. What I mean by quality is how close to the anime style it is and passes off as such by consumer eyes (not faux anime like teen titans).

My sushi is not very good. But I gotta call it something.

okay.. so. I am eating Chinese food. It didn't need to be from China. Hell, I think the cook was Korean.

so...if South Park was outsourced to Japan and made the same way, its anime by default?

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okay.. so. I am eating Chinese food. It didn't need to be from China. Hell, I think the cook was Korean.

Chinese food isn't even what they eat in China (mostly). The American word "Chinese food" refers to a certain menu of items and flavors. It has no connection to the American word "anime".

Thefreedictionary.com

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Anime- A style of animation developed in Japan, characterized by stylized colorful art, futuristic settings, violence, and sex.

Nah your not. And yes your right. That's what foriegn (to japan) anime will be considered- a sub genre, but still reckonized as anime by the masses if good enough to be such. I didn't know where J pop or J rock were coined. But the point is Jrock/pop branched out from a style that was perfected/marketed/orignated elsewhere. To deny calling them pop or rock even though the musical style is there because thier foriegn style and modifications don't meet the original audience standards is just silly.

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However typical white guys trying to be black can't pass off as black because of genetic issues (a good point with a bad analogy).

A white guy can never pass for black, but he CAN pass for street. Eminem does it. Strangely enough Justin Timberlake does it. Black people love him. That's my point, it's culture, not race. There exists in America numerous micro-cultures, one of which is the urban culture that contains things like rap and hip-hop. It's based on elements of African culture, and is predominantly embraced by black people, but you don't have to be dark skin to be a part of it, and black skin does not guarantee particiaption in it (nor is it easy to be apart of without paying the dues).

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thats where i disagree. Good argument but someday something may come along where you may not even be able to tell the diffrence by looking, and will feel totally betrayed to learn the awful truth. What I mean by quality is how close to the anime style it is and passes off as such by consumer eyes (not faux anime like teen titans).

My point is that some people seem to insist that show X is anime BECAUSE it's a good show. They say "but it has to be anime, because it's so good! Isn't it better than [blank]?" That's not what anime means. "Anime" is not an adjective used to confirm the greatness of a show, a show is no better or worse for being called anime. Anime is a lable meant to define a series as being Japanese in origin, and if it's not, then that description does not apply, regardless of it's quality.

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My sushi is not very good. But I gotta call it something.

It's Sushi. The American word. This is not to be confused with sushi, the Japanese word, which has a different meaning to it. Whether the sushi you make is "good" or not is completely irrelevant, do you see my point?

Anime is the Japanese word for animation.
Animation is the American word for animation.
Anime is the American word for a distinct sub-genre of animation that originates in Japan.
Japanese Animation means the exact same thing, only with many more sylables and letters.

There is no elitism, implied or otherwise, in naming something "anime" or "not anime".

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okay.. so. I am eating Chinese food. It didn't need to be from China. Hell, I think the cook was Korean.

Chinese food isn't even what they eat in China (mostly). The American word "Chinese food" refers to a certain menu of items and flavors. It has no connection to the American word "anime".

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so...if South Park was outsourced to Japan and made the same way, its anime by default?

If it was writen by Japanese people and the character designs were done by Japanese people, yes. Otherwise, no.

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Nah your not. And yes your right. That's what foriegn (to japan) anime will be considered- a sub genre, but still reckonized as anime by the masses if good enough to be such. I didn't know where J pop or J rock were coined. But the point is Jrock/pop branched out from a style that was perfected/marketed/orignated elsewhere. To deny calling them pop or rock even though the musical style is there because thier foriegn style and modifications don't meet the original audience standards is just silly.

Well i know J-pop is coined from a Japanese music station and J-Rock was coined by non-japanese fans to differentiate more rock type of music (in Japan, j-rock is just called j-pop)

Well, not everyone is up to listening to music they can't understand, no matter how good the song it.
I've been commented on why i listen to japanese music even though i don't know any japanese... simply, i don't think music should be judged on just lyrics, but the actual music itself. In fact, if the music is nice, i won't care about the lyrics (unless it's really annoying engrish)

Too bad not everyone things this way.

J-Pop music is heavily influenced from Western music, but the japanese have mangaed to create their own style and originality from it.

When you say "the orginal audience" do you mean the american audience? i'm a bit muddled...

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Quote: okay.. so. I am eating Chinese food. It didn't need to be from China. Hell, I think the cook was Korean. Chinese food isn't even what they eat in China (mostly). The American word "Chinese food" refers to a certain menu of items and flavors. It has no connection to the American word "anime".

It wouldn't be "authentic" Chinese food would it? Just like anime-styled american animation isn't "authentic"

Its an analogy about names and adjectives and the nouns they refer to. Change Chinese to Italian, or Mexican, and its back on track with what I am sayin.

Sushi by american terms, and Japanese terms.. I didn't know it meant two diffrent things. I looked it up out of curiousity, and am a little confused. How about a link explaining?