Forum - View topicSlayers Evolution-R, Naga's a box?
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chefneer
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I just finished Slayers Evolution-R. Slayers is one of my favorites and I thought they wrapped things up well, except for one thing.
What's the deal with Naga? A talking box? I must have missed something. Xellos said that her soul would return to her original body, but I remember her body being a bit more curvaceous than a box. I was hoping that it would be explained later in the show but it never happened. I'm wondering if it's made clear in the manga? |
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EricDent
 Posts: 997 Location: Georgetown, TX |
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Maybe her body was stuck in the box?
I was kind of hoping that Lina would figure out who she was, and they would have a "duel" again. I also wanted her to show up in her normal form as well (sort of like the Slayers movie that had the Squids in it). |
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DerekTheRed
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What I figured was that some nice villagers buried her body in the box because it appeared that she was dead, you know, what with her soul being in the armor and all.
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RHachicho
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Lol yeah wannabe evil sorceress queen versus wannabe champion of justice would have been funny
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chefneer
Posts: 1686 Location: Fort Worth, Texas |
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When Amelia was stuck inside the armor they got along pretty well, so I think it would be good if they met. That'll be hard to do if Naga's stuck in a box though.
I think Lina may have had a pretty good idea who she was. She recognized her voice and laugh, and got just as irritated with her as before. This was a reunion show, so I would have liked to have seen Naga get a little a better treatment than stuffed in a box and forgotten. In the closing credits they showed everybody going their separate ways but there was no sign of Naga, so I've got to wonder what happens to her next. |
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DerekTheRed
Posts: 3544 Location: ::Points to hand:: |
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I meant that Naga and Amelia are supposed to be long lost sisters, so presumably they would recognize eachother if they met in person. (Naga doesn't recognize Amelia as her sister because of the memory loss.)
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chefneer
Posts: 1686 Location: Fort Worth, Texas |
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Yeah, it'd be great if they could meet. Since neither has ever mentioned the other, as far as I can remember, I wonder how much they actually know about each other. I've gotten the impression that Amelia may not know about Naga. I would think that she would have recognized her when she was stuck in the armor, since Naga's voice and mannerisms hadn't changed. Naga has been gone for several years, but still.
Hopefully we'll get some clarification. I like Naga, I hate to think she'll spend the rest of her life in a box. |
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DerekTheRed
Posts: 3544 Location: ::Points to hand:: |
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No, I'm pretty sure she knows she has a sister. I think she tells Lina the story in Slayers Try about how her mother was killed by an assassin and her older sister stumbled in on it, and there was blood everywhere and her sister snapped and ran away from home.
Try is my least favorite season though, so I could be mistaken. I've got some shows scheduled for now (about a hundred episodes), and then I was going to revisit Next and Try, so I'll find out in a month or so. |
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chefneer
Posts: 1686 Location: Fort Worth, Texas |
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I've been thinking it may be time for me to revisit the series myself, from the beginning. That should be fun.
I'm also thinking it may be time to look into acquiring the manga. Don't know how much bother that'll be. |
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DerekTheRed
Posts: 3544 Location: ::Points to hand:: |
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Is there a manga? I thought Slayers was adapted from a series of light novels.
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chefneer
Posts: 1686 Location: Fort Worth, Texas |
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You may be right. The encyclopedia lists them as manga but on Amazon they're light novels from Tokyopop. According to the reviews they're different from the anime as well. Reasonably priced, for the most part, though there are a couple of exceptions. There are quite a few of them, too - getting them all could be interesting.
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Bento-Box
 Posts: 1049 Location: Florida |
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I've watched Try recently and do not remember the gory details... but I definitely remember Amelia mentioning a sister. I have not read the manga, but have heard that this was a little more developed in the manga than the anime series. I found Naga's role in the new Slayers to be highly delightful =) Personally, I would like Amelia and Naga to meet, but it seems like they are keeping Naga out of the main story line. I think they're doing this because she would just make the series down right ridiculous. That's always the impression I got. |
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EricJ
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I always got the impression that the Naga OVA's seemed to be from a different company (they were certainly a different style from the TV series)-- And that Naga Sir-Not-Appearing-In-This-Cartoon was meant to be a running in-joke about canon vs. production companies--The same way a gag-comedy might have an undisplayable character show up with a bag over their head marked "Copyright Protection--Novel Version Only". 
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Bento-Box
Posts: 1049 Location: Florida |
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ROFL @ "sir-not-appearing-in-this-film" Cheers to Monty Python.
I agree that the animation style is a bit different in the OVAs featuring Naga. But doesn't she also make a cameo in the Premium OVA? That, I believe, was produced by a completely different company than the original OVAs. I always assumed the animation styles were different in the TV shows for a variety of reasons. The movies and OVAs, because of their release method and brevity, were probably allowed to have more detail in character design and more involved (lack of a better word) animation attributes. Also - I think many "fantasy" series back then were marketed a certain way to appeal to people who like "fantasy" and not necessarily anime (take Lodoss as an example). When looking to animate something for TV, I think keeping things as simple (in terms of animation, character design, backgrounds, etc) is preferred to stay within the budget while still providing good looking animation. I also believe that current animation trends governed the art styles of the various installments of Slayers. Where it started off with highly detailed animation in the movies and OVAs, it gradually became brighter, more simplified, and more mainstream. For Naga... I never considered her to be any kind of licensing property of the Movies or OVAs. I would think she was the property of the original manga artist and it would be his discretion to use/avoid her. It seemed like, every time Naga got involved in the plot of the Movies and OVAs in which she was featured, the plot became virtually obliterated. Naga and Lina were, inevitably destined to be on opposing sides and always of opposing opinions. To take Naga and place her in something as serious as Try, Next, etc. would probably take away from the plot, in my opinion. Not sure if that's the reason they pulled her character or not, but... it's certainly something to consider. I think there was a resounding call for the revival of Naga's character and this is how they're answering that call without actually answering any of the big questions fans have. I think it would be interesting for them to continue her character out of the Suit of Armor (fully clothed... erm... scantily clothed... of course) but I'm not sure how far they could logically take her character. Also - just to continue a Naga debate  - wouldn't the Slayers crew get just a tad bit overpowered if Naga were to join them? Or would she be inevitably on the side who paid her the most? Lina, without her Dragon Slave and the other yummies she gets throughout the TV series was scary and all, but Naga seemed a fairly equal match - even though she didn't have the brains for it. Although, I'd be lying if I said that I didn't want to see Naga's return if only to see her interact with Xellos. 
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chefneer
Posts: 1686 Location: Fort Worth, Texas |
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Naga and Xellos would be entertaining, wouldn't it? Another reason to get her out of that box. She is an over the top character, but that's what makes her fun.
As far as the crew being overpowered if Naga joined them, I would argue that they're a tad overpowered already, what with Lina's penchant for leaving craters in her wake. What's a little more, eh? They would certainly get on each others nerves, but Naga and Lina are pretty evenly matched - their duels never really amounted to much other than blowing off some steam, and widespread devastation. It would also be interesting to see what influence Amelia would have on Naga, they do seem to get along with each other pretty well. It would be nice if the gang could have another adventure, and there is a hook for one, I think: Gourry still has to find himself a sword. I wonder if sales were good enough to justify another installment in the Slayers saga. |
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