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here-and-faraway
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 6:48 am
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I love the way Range Murata uses color and draws eyes. I also like the soft lines on his characters' faces. I look forward to seeing his new designs.
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rinkwolf10
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:43 am
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Finally Gonzo is back in the game, hope this show makes it big and put then back into producing more shows again.
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walw6pK4Alo
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:43 am
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Even if a show didn't use Range's direct designs, they still styled the characters, especially the eyes, in his fashion. Druaga, Witchblade, and several others were like this.
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 11:04 am
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I've always liked his character designs, even if the show itself wound up being unwatchable for me (I'm looking at you, Shangri-La!) so I'll likely give this new show a try.
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firedragon54738
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 11:14 am
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Cool I cant wait to see what they do
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Otaking09
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 11:34 am
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Gonzo, has, and always will be, one of my favorite studios.
All they need is Mahiro Meada or Koichi Chigara(two directors who same able to bring out Gonzo's best) to direct this mystery, and.... us, U.S. fans will wait patiently.
Don't get me wrong, I love Range's stuff as much as the next one. The fact that he's been brought on, further convinces me that they're gonna pull ALL the stops for this.
With any luck, I hope it'll be the Inception of anime.
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daedelus
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:23 pm
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Double... no, triple win!!!
Gonzo is on the comeback trail, Range Murata, and a 3D anime!
My poor TV is starving for more 3D material. That is a drawback to being an early adopter.
Can't wait for more details!
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AyumiHamasaki
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:09 pm
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Otaking09 wrote: | Gonzo, has, and always will be, one of my favorite studios.
All they need is Mahiro Meada or Koichi Chigara(two directors who same able to bring out Gonzo's best) to direct this mystery, and.... us, U.S. fans will wait patiently.
Don't get me wrong, I love Range's stuff as much as the next one. The fact that he's been brought on, further convinces me that they're gonna pull ALL the stops for this.
With any luck, I hope it'll be the Inception of anime. |
OMG I second Mahiro Meada!! He's a genius and he hasn't directed any anime in years! I have enjoyed ALL of his shows that he directed so far. The best being Gankutsuou.
I hope Gonzo asks him to direct this.
Huge fan of both Mahiro Meada and GONZO. Glad they're coming back.
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tootbrush
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:18 pm
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Yeeeaaahhh.. Even if this is the 3D thing, I doubt people are gonna see it in 3D before a BD release. Unless they plan to show their comeback anime to a really frakking small audience. Heck, is anyone even broadcasting in 3D in Japan?
They're probably setting themselves up for failure anyway if they focus on the 3D fad too much, since it looks like it's about to die. Again.
Quote: | Range Murata was the character designer for such Gonzo anime projects as [...] Solty Rei [...] |
Only a freakin' motorbike.
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Ranmah
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:37 pm
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cool. I can't wait to see the new series from Murata-san and Gonzo. I met Murata-san a couple times at Comiket. Very classy person.
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skchai1
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 4:43 pm
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I can see a potentially big problem here. Although Murata's art and character designs are great, they have a level of detail that is very hard to reproduce on typical TV anime budgets.
This brings up Shangri-La, the 2009 commercial fiasco that, more than anything else, nearly drive Gonzo under. Murata's promotional art initially got a lot of people excited. Furthermore, I thought it ended up being a flawed but decent series overall. Regardless, it was the commercial flop among 2009 anime TV series, with DVD sales (the life blood for late night anime) for most of the R2 volumes in the hundreds. Gonzo did not even bother to commission Murata drawings for the last few volume covers, replacing them with some generic pictures that have nothing to do with the anime. Furthermore, Shangri-La was largely a self-produced venture, so the financial impact was particularly great. While Gonzo also had two major hit series in 2008 (Strike Witches) and 2009 (Saki), these were contract vehicles for groups led by Kadokawa (who replaced them for Strike Witches S2) and Square Enix, respectively, and presumably didn't make up financially for the Shangri-La failure.
There were a number of reasons people have criticized Shangri-La, but the thing 2ch posters (who after all are fairly representative of the main target market) focused on the most was the quality of animation, particularly the character animation. It's obvious that budget didn't match the ambitiousness of the project. The backgrounds range from gorgeous to fairly rudimentary, but the character animations are pretty consistently low quality, particularly for poor Kuniko, the main character. Her facial features vary noticeably from episode to episode, and in any of her screen version is at best a very sketchy distant relative of the Murata design. Since love for the (usually female) characters typically drives R2 DVD/BD sales for late night anime nowadays, this pretty much doomed Shangri-La to oblivion. BTW, poor Takahashi Mikako, Kuniko's voice actress. This was her first lead role after over a decade of constant activity in the industry . . . only for this to happen.
In their current state. I don't see how Gonzo can budget a full TV series that does justice to Murata character designs. So I hope this is an OVA they're planning. And though you have to respect Gonzo for always being willing to experiment, the 3-D TV thing honestly just makes me feel queasy.
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mckg1
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 4:51 pm
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This one looks promising, should be interesting, and teh design should be plain awesome. Can't wait until this baby comes out
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penguintruth
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:05 pm
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I hope it's as good as Last Exile was. That's one of my favorite shows.
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Sam Murai
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 6:22 pm
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skchai1 wrote: | I can see a potentially big problem here. Although Murata's art and character designs are great, they have a level of detail that is very hard to reproduce on typical TV anime budgets.
This brings up Shangri-La, the 2009 commercial fiasco that, more than anything else, nearly drive Gonzo under. Murata's promotional art initially got a lot of people excited. Furthermore, I thought it ended up being a flawed but decent series overall. Regardless, it was the commercial flop among 2009 anime TV series, with DVD sales (the life blood for late night anime) for most of the R2 volumes in the hundreds. Gonzo did not even bother to commission Murata drawings for the last few volume covers, replacing them with some generic pictures that have nothing to do with the anime. Furthermore, Shangri-La was largely a self-produced venture, so the financial impact was particularly great. While Gonzo also had two major hit series in 2008 (Strike Witches) and 2009 (Saki), these were contract vehicles for groups led by Kadokawa (who replaced them for Strike Witches S2) and Square Enix, respectively, and presumably didn't make up financially for the Shangri-La failure.
There were a number of reasons people have criticized Shangri-La, but the thing 2ch posters (who after all are fairly representative of the main target market) focused on the most was the quality of animation, particularly the character animation. It's obvious that budget didn't match the ambitiousness of the project. The backgrounds range from gorgeous to fairly rudimentary, but the character animations are pretty consistently low quality, particularly for poor Kuniko, the main character. Her facial features vary noticeably from episode to episode, and in any of her screen version is at best a very sketchy distant relative of the Murata design. Since love for the (usually female) characters typically drives R2 DVD/BD sales for late night anime nowadays, this pretty much doomed Shangri-La to oblivion. BTW, poor Takahashi Mikako, Kuniko's voice actress. This was her first lead role after over a decade of constant activity in the industry . . . only for this to happen.
In their current state. I don't see how Gonzo can budget a full TV series that does justice to Murata character designs. So I hope this is an OVA they're planning. And though you have to respect Gonzo for always being willing to experiment, the 3-D TV thing honestly just makes me feel queasy. |
IIRC, GONZO was already in financial trouble before doing Saki and Shangri-La (Slap-up Party was another, but that was a co-prod.), not that S-L helped pull in revenue. That, and I'd also attribute the show's problems to the heady economic topics it was trying to tackle and the ill-fitting mix between Murata's style (conceptual design) and Kumi Ishii's (Red Garden, Kure-nai) own distinctive style (animation design). It was a noble experiment, but it just didn't work (and you didn't need to see the anime itself to tell you that if you ever saw any of the printed promo material). It's not a bad show, but not particularily graceful, either. However I, too, have to give credit to GONZO for always being willing to do something bold and experimental--that's what the studio was practically built upon (Blue Submarine No. 6).
Now you see GONZO return right back to its roots for its "rebirth" of sorts with their foray into 3D. It sounds much like what they were aspiring to with Mardock Scramble before they realized their technical limitations at the time. And, of course, Murata's gotta be involved for a signiture project. I'm really happy to see that they didn't throw in the towel and are raring to go again. Though hopefully this time, they will put a better effort in keeping their character animations on model and consistent, given the Gundoh-level discrepancies in LINEBARRELS, and to a lesser extent, Shangri-La. Regardless, I'll be pulling for them.
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ikillchicken
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Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:22 pm
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Good to hear. I liked his work on Blue Submarine #6.
Quote: | Gonzo told ANN during March's Tokyo International Anime Fair (TAF) that it was developing a potential Spring 2011 project that would take advantage of the new stereoscopic 3D televisions now entering the marketplace. |
Hooray for gimmicks!
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