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Aaron White
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No. Manga is easily outselling superhero comics. |
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xxmiyuxx
Posts: 109 Location: Bordentown, NJ |
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I don't think it's a matter of who is selling more....it's a matter of Marvel wanting to get a peice of the manga gravey train. And who better to assist them in their quest than CLAMP? It makes perfect sence. So they are jumping into the Japanese sandbox, so to speak. |
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jfrog
Posts: 925 Location: Seattle |
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Really? And manga hasn't taken sales away from DC and Marvel - the reason they're looking for a slice of the pie is because a whole new market that (for the most part) doesn't touch their stuff has just started reading comics. |
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Tenchi
Posts: 4556 Location: Ottawa... now I'm an ex-Anglo Montrealer. |
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I know; I think a lot of people get that false impression by comparing apples to oranges; the bulk of American comic books are sold as monthly issues, while the bulk of American-translated manga these days is sold direct-to-paperback. While you can buy certain paperback collections of American comic books, since it's reprints of stuff Americans have seen already, it usually doesn't get as high on the paperback charts. It doesn't mean that somehow manga suddenly got more popular than American comics with Americans, it just means that people buy Japanese comics in a different format than American comics. |
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Aaron White
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Yes, really. You're looking at Diamond's sales report, but Diamond is only a distributor for the direct sales market. If you add the returnable (a.k.a. bookstore) market into the picture you'll find that manga is gang-banging superhero comics sales. For example, the average issue of Shonen Jump sells in the tens of thousands of copies; top-selling superhero comics might sell a tenth of that in a record week. |
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Aaron White
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Also, Marvel has been teetering on the brink of bankruptcy for years now. They're doing much better, but it's all because of the movies. In other words, it isn't because of the comics. And Time/Warner keeps DC on life support as an R&D lab for properties which can be turned into movies, cartoons etc. Superhero comics themselves hardly ever turn a profit anymore.
Meanwhile the manga market has become a $100 million industry in the west, according to IVN. Superhero comics publishers are sick with envy. |
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Aaron White
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Duh! I don't know why I didn't think to mention this before, but anyway: like I say, that Diamond sales chart shows you what is and isn't selling in comic book shops, not what's selling in bookstores, online, or at newstands. But furthermore, the second chart-the one of bestselling titles-only includes comics in traditional monthly pamphlet format. And how much manga is published in that format anymore?
Furthermore lots of hidebound comic book stores have been slow to pick up on manga. If they don't stock it, they can't sell it. Bookstores and Amazon are where the manga revolution is really happening. Bear in mind, I'm not taking sides in some kind of "brand loyalty" thing; I want all comics to do well. |
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Tempest
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Shonen Jump sells close to or over 300 000 copies every week. The top selling comic books sell closer to 200 000 copies. I'll see if I can get a number for Graphic novels. |
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Aaron White
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Well, I was wrong all over with my guesstimated numbers, but I stand by my general contention.
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Twilight Dragon
Posts: 585 Location: Archangel |
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Who is drawling th marvel books?
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Generator_Gawl
Posts: 9 Location: Middle River, MD |
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Ummm... that would be CLAMP. Hence the article. BTW- I've seen X-Men mentioned in the posts, but as they haven't named the characters to be used, who is everyone hoping will get the CLAMP treatment? I think Ghost Rider would be pretty neat... |
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