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NEWS: CLAMP does Marvel Project


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Zac
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 7:44 pm Reply with quote
For me, 'manga' is an appropriated word, like 'otaku'. 'Manga' in English means 'Japanese comics'. We have a word for Korean comics too. Just like 'otaku' means anime fan.

It isn't manga to me unless it's from Japan. Calling an American work that's expressly intended to look and sound like manga manga is like calling a dog dressed in a cat suit a cat. Call a spade a spade.

Doesn't mean the American stuff is inferior, but it is different, and I think one of the great things about our language is the ability to be precise with our words.

That having been said, I look forward to the X-Men all becoming androgynous, angsty homosexual adolescents who murder eachother.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 9:16 pm Reply with quote
I wish Clamp would have designed the costume for the Catwoman movie. Smile Surely it would be an improvement.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 9:39 pm Reply with quote
Why is CLAMP doing spandex and underware comics? I like their original stories that doesn't have to do with spandex and underware. No offense to superhero fans. I guess Marvel is trying to lure manga fans to read their comics.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 9:46 pm Reply with quote
I have a feeling that whatever characters they use they'll be in superhero street-clothe rather than skin tight unitards and singlets.

I hope they go bubbley and shoujo rather than doing an angsty shounen type book, just because it's been bearly done between Marvel and DC.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:18 pm Reply with quote
I just hoe that when alls said and done...they will make that treck over to america. My message to CLAMP: "GET OVER YOUR FEAR OF AIRPLANES!!!!"
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:18 pm Reply with quote
Zac wrote:
That having been said, I look forward to the X-Men all becoming androgynous, angsty homosexual adolescents who murder eachother.


I also look forward to that event. Anime exclamation
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:31 pm Reply with quote
This is a pipe dream, but I think Power Pack has somewhat similar, and I'll use a pretentious word here in spite of myself, "sensibilities" to the more serious mahou shoujo team comics, since that comic was as much about keeping their powers secret from the world, especially their parents (well, in the "classic" Louise Simonson-penned, June Brigman-drawn issues from the first half of the series, at least), and trying to maintain relatively normal childhood lives in spite of their responsibilities, as it was about fighting the aliens and bad guys. That's about the only Marvel property I'd be interested in buying a CLAMP-ified version of, though I am looking forward to Indian Spider-Man, should that ever be published in English, just for the novelty value.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 11:18 pm Reply with quote
Wow... well... my being the CLAMP whore I am, will buy it. ... this should be intresting. Still, a year without new X updates... depressing...

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The Ramblin' Wreck



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2004 12:07 am Reply with quote
jfrog wrote:
Meh. Every time one of the Big Two tries to get a celebrity writer to play in their sandbox, it fails to involve me in any way. Child of Dreams and 1602 were neither good nor bad, just dull, and I expect this project to be the same. And it certainly doesn't help that I'm a fan of neither Marvel nor CLAMP.


I beg to differ.


The Sandman is a masterpiece!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2004 12:31 am Reply with quote
The Ramblin' Wreck wrote:
The Sandman is a masterpiece!


I'll back that up. Sandman is really the only American comic series I'm still reading. I'm looking forward to when they try to get a manga-ka in Japan to submit to it. Yoshitaka Amano's submission was gorgeous, but it wasn't in comic format.
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Proman



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2004 1:32 am Reply with quote
By the way, Neil Gaiman, who is the writer of Sandman, also wrote the english adaptation of 'Princess Mononoke'. I also heard that Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons 'Watchmen' and 'Swamp Thing' is really good if you like that kind of stuff.
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ex_mutants



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2004 10:03 am Reply with quote
Uhm, Manga is just the term that the Japanese use for comic books. So therefore not only is Clamp going to make a manga for Marvel, Marvel already makes plenty of Manga currently. Yes there are cultural differences in Manga versus US comics, because they are from another country, but it’s all still comics. Trends like reading Manga “the real way” is just silly and delusional at best. It’s all just Sequential Art, more common referred to as Comics or Manga.

Also, Clamp is probably doing so well, that they can afford to pick and choose which project they work on. Also Marvel is full of world renowned characters, that plenty people across the globe would love to work on. So just like there are some Americans that would love to do a Card Captor Sakura Manga, there is probably some Japanese that would love to a Spider-Man comic.

And yes, Marvel is probably using Clamp to draw in “Manga” readers, because well there is a lot of them, they spend plenty of money, and they are already reading comics.

P.S. A lot of comic readers are just as much isolationist or elitist as a lot of manga readers are.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2004 10:19 am Reply with quote
Marvel have already done something like this. They brought out a short series called the marvel mangaverse which was actually really decent for the most part(the hulk as godzilla and the avengers combining into a giant robot,great stuff.) I think its was a mixture of japanese and american artists who worked on it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2004 12:02 pm Reply with quote
Mr Mania wrote:
Marvel have already done something like this. They brought out a short series called the marvel mangaverse which was actually really decent for the most part(the hulk as godzilla and the avengers combining into a giant robot,great stuff.) I think its was a mixture of japanese and american artists who worked on it.


Yeah, and C.B. Cebulski was the editor for the line.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2004 1:58 pm Reply with quote
tekkaman wrote:
Why is CLAMP doing spandex and underware comics? I like their original stories that doesn't have to do with spandex and underware. No offense to superhero fans. I guess Marvel is trying to lure manga fans to read their comics.


Clearly, you haven't read enough American comics. Marvel may do a disproportionate amount of superhero titles to their other stuff (and with several decades of success with those titles, can you really blame them?), but they can pump out original work just as well as anyone else when given the chance. And even their superhero books are suprisingly well done, in several cases (Ultimate Spider-Man and the Alex Ross work Marvels are favorites of mine in the superhero category--maybe you should check them out). Oh, and just to let you know, Marvel has begun to move away from the "Spandex and Underwear" superheros far more vigorously then most of the other comics publishers. Though some of their classic characters, of course, still maintain their original (and now world-famous) appearances.

As for Clamp, it's their choice. I'm sure that they wouldn't approach something like this unless they had a genuine interest in telling a story with Marvel property. Wait and see.

PS: I love how so many American fans of Anime/Manga consider a Japanese artist working on American comics some form of selling out. Because, you know, they're all about complete originality and ultra-high quality back in Japan.
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