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ikillchicken
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Thanks for the Clarification Chris. That really clears things up. I hope this will help ADV get back on their feet.
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Dr.Lazarus
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It's not really in pieces... If you look up the companies that bought out ADV in the Texas Business registration you'll notice they all have the same address. VALKYRIE MEDIA PARTNERS, LLC 908 TOWN AND COUNTRY BLVD STE 120 HOUSTON, TX 77024-2208 SXION 23, LLC 908 TOWN AND COUNTRY BLVD STE 120 HOUSTON, TX 77024-2208 SERAPHIM STUDIOS, LLC 908 TOWN AND COUNTRY BLVD STE 120 HOUSTON, TX 77024-2208 And as far as the talk of a Clannad dub... I'm sure we will sooner or later. ADV sold the other 2 Key/VA titles to funi so I see no reason they won't do it with the third as well. I just expect they want to make some cash off it first. I suspect after they have finished releasing it all then they'll probably let funi get it, and I can't see funi putting it out without a dub. I'm being patient on it, but I have a few (non anime watching) people that I want to see it that refuse to watch anything that's subbed. *Sigh* |
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bleuster
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At first, I thought the green highlighted R.I.P. was going to link to a related article or an actual somber farewell of some sort, but it went to Tokoypop's Requiem in Phonybrian. I thought that was funny.
It could have been worse for ADV Films and others, but its just going to take time to sort all these out. Best of luck to them. |
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PetrifiedJello
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I sit here shocked and stunned. I assumed ADV simply because it's running on their TANOD station. Well, now that I know better: Where's the dub, Nozomi? Did ADV pay to license this series on its own network? I'm scared. Certainly one can see how easy it can be to confuse who actually "owns" the series. Not that I'm complaining. I love watching Aria. But to see it on an ADV station??? And this explains why I couldn't find the series under ADV listings. *slaps self. Should have had a V8 (with cruise control, AC, CD...) |
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Bargain Hunter
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I guess your winky emote shows that you aren't truly expecting a dub of Aria from Nozomi. For the benefit of those who may not know, part of Nozomi's business plan is to license supah-niche titles subbed, since dubbing them would virtually guarantee losing money. I'm a dub-lubber myself, but my philosophy is always: better a sub than nothing at all. |
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PetrifiedJello
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Of course not, but there's always hope. I'd love to see a dub release if the sub version sells better than expected. However, garnering the attitudes from fans on this site tells me, quite frankly, this series isn't going to sell enough for a dub. A shame, really.
I gathered that right from the outset in looking at Nozomi titles available for purchase. In fact, I always wonder what their criteria is for selecting such titles. I'm wondering if the owner loves the series so much, he just had to bring it over because no one else would. Thank goodness. Otherwise, I would have never heard of Aria and that's a big kudos for distributing it on TANOD, a competitor's station. Last edited by PetrifiedJello on Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:54 am; edited 1 time in total |
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chrisb
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What about that recording studio, Industrial Smoke and Mirrors?
And the voice actors that usually never make it to Funimation (Vic Mignonga and Greg Ayers will always have work it seems) I'd hate to never hear Hillary Haag and Cynthia Martniez's voices in other anime, they were my favorite voice actresses. |
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Mohawk52
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Tempest
I Run this place.
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Umm... You've made some incorrect assumptions here. It was indeed a mistake to write that. But it wasn't editorializing on our part. I'll let you fill in the blanks. -t |
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omoikane
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I already covered this possibility |
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Bargain Hunter
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Which is exactly why I used the qualifier "part of" with respect to their business plan since not everything in their catalogue is sub-only. However, I think it is fair to say the preponderance of their more recent releases falls into the "super-niche therefore sub only" strategy. I also think it is fair to point out they sometimes try to compensate for a lack of a dub by offering extras such as the 96-page "Victorian Gazette" that came with the first season of Emma. |
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mudduck454
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as long as funi doesn't own licenses to all the anime in america we will be fine, lets just hope with this, we will see newer shows coming down the pipe sooner, like bandia did with kannagi, that is what we want. newer shows faster. I hate waiting years to be able to buy an official R1 DVD of a show, still want Rizelmine
(will never happen) and with niche shows, I can't wait for antique bakery to be released by nozomi, and rental magica. I just wish one of these companies would bring Itazura na Kiss to america, and dub it so my girlfriend will watch it. |
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mangastudent
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To expand on this and correct an understandable error in the original editorial, specifically:
A.D. Vision, Inc. was formed in 1992, and based on the "Inc" and the date was a corporation (correction: probably NOT an S since a company like A.D. Vision needs to keep profits in the company instead of disbursing them quickly to stockholders) and not a Limited Liability Company (LLC). We're now all generally familiar with the constraints that normally come with an LLC where the various rights of the owners are defined in its Operating Agreement and can be quite restrictive. An LLC provides the limited liability of a corporation while otherwise being organized as a partnership. In a corporation a small minority shareholder like Sojitz can maybe get 1 member on the board of directors (out of 4-5), who can easily be ignored. And if new investment dilutes the existing shareholders they all lose the same amount, but a minority shareholder has no veto rights. These very limited restrictions are of course a major reason why LLCs have become so popular. And note the wording in the press release:
This very clearly signals that their issues were with their creditors. They have worked out arrangements whereby the transferred assets come to the new companies "subject to all liens and security interest of the Company's senior secured lender." As Greed1914 points out, there's a strict order in which entities get assets upon the dissolution of a corporation and it starts with secured lenders. When the senior lender lent money to A.D. Vision it was somewhat like a mortgage, in that at worse case they get ownership of the assets that secured the loan. The senior secured lender will (at least in theory) go along with all this since it is almost certain to get more money back from going concerns vs. auctioning off the assets in the current economic climate (general and for anime). Bottom line: A.D. Vision, Inc. did not liquidate because of Sojitz's minority stake, but Sojitz is now totally out of their hair. Last edited by mangastudent on Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:19 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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TatsuGero23
Posts: 1277 Location: Sniper Island, USA (It's in your heart!) |
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hmm... I guess it needed to be clearified. Even though technically ADV Films is dead, its still business as usually, just a new owner(s) and name(s). Hey, sometimes things need a name change. Look at the Kiwi fruit. It use to be called the chinese gooseberry and no one bought it. Now its in everything. Thanks ADV Films for the memories and tough business life lessons. May your new name bring back the spirit you had in the 90's.
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Ktimene's Lover
Posts: 2242 Location: Glendale, AZ (Proudly living in the desert) |
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TatsuGero23 says:
Interesting analogy but agreed that their new name bring back their 90s spirit. Gooseberry has an odd name indeed. |
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