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Nuriko-chan
Joined: 10 Sep 2003
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 10:50 am
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I could've sworn I posted on this...
*cheers* GO LARUKU! I'm a huge L'Arc fan, and this makes me very happy^^.
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Sword of Whedon
Joined: 17 Sep 2003
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 11:41 am
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Quote: | Or rather, that's your opinion. But see, I call them Laruku not because I'm a fangirl who feels special for it, but because in my native language (not Japanese) it's much easier to say 'Laruku' than 'L'Arc'. |
But are you pronouncing it "Lah-hlu-koo" or "La-Roo-Koo"?
Most of the aforementioned fangirls also pronounce it wrong
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Bell
Joined: 14 Jan 2004
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 2:40 pm
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I actually say it (Laruku) the "wrong" way because I got used to saying L'Arc~en~Ciel the American way instead of the Japanese way. Kind of like how I don't pronounce Gackt's name "properly".
You can't tell if a person's a "fangirl" just by the way they pronounce things or the nicknames they use, but rather by the way they act. -_-
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Sword of Whedon
Joined: 17 Sep 2003
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 5:08 pm
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Quote: | I actually say it (Laruku) the "wrong" way because I got used to saying L'Arc~en~Ciel the American way instead of the Japanese way. |
That's OK, because the only correct way is the French way
Quote: | Kind of like how I don't pronounce Gackt's name "properly". |
His name is Gackt, it's intended to be prounced the way it's done in English, again you're looking at the Japanese "good enough" transliteration in "Gahkuto".
It's like with Rumiko Takahashi. The character's name is Lum, not "lamu", but lacking a direct transliteration, she had to go with the "good enough" katakana.
The moral of the story? Katakana is usually the wrong way to pronounce anything that you know for a fact is not an original Japanese word (Like they spell "Yamato" and "Akira" in katakana for some reason)
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Hotaru
Joined: 02 Aug 2002
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Location: NY
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 8:43 pm
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it's a battle of the l'arc fans!
lady mercury, you're the same lady mercury from the jpopmusic forums, right? hi!
Usually i tend to call them a jrock band. There are some songs that aren't like really "rock-y" but that doesn't mean that they're like...a bi-genre band or whatever. i have invented a word. anyways...yeah.
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Ladymercury
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2004 5:35 am
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Hotaru wrote: | lady mercury, you're the same lady mercury from the jpopmusic forums, right? hi! |
Yep, yep.
Well, the japanese pronouce Rs like Ls anyway. lol
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Sword of Whedon
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2004 6:22 pm
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Quote: | Well, the japanese pronouce Rs like Ls anyway |
It's far closer to an "hl", with a breathyness before it.
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Ladymercury
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2004 9:49 pm
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Sword of Whedon wrote: |
Quote: | Well, the japanese pronouce Rs like Ls anyway |
It's far closer to an "hl", with a breathyness before it. |
Like hell? or heil? wahhh?
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Sword of Whedon
Joined: 17 Sep 2003
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2004 10:33 pm
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You have to combine the breathyness of "h" with the "l" sound
Listen to how Japanese speak on your DVDs.
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Minami
Joined: 03 May 2004
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Location: Somewhere out there...
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2004 11:35 pm
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Well it also depends on where the person comes from. I know some people in Japan pronounce "ru", just an example, as "lu" and some others pronounce it as sort of a "rdu" or "hrlu" sound..English letters are so limited in this sort of thing..which is why I despise the language. It also depends on the word sometimes too... As for me, I pronounce it as whichever comes naturally. Also I think the 'coolest' sound in Japanese in the "fu" I love saying words that contain that!
Anyway, about the subject. I'm very excited that the SMILE cd is being released in the U.S. I did not buy it yet, but hopefully it comes to a store nearby in which I can purchase it! Does anyone know the official date in which it will be released? I heard in June, but June what? Thank ya! Oh and btw, I just joined today so hello to everyone!
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jmays
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2004 11:40 pm
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Okay, since Bamboo and I just spent an HOUR discussing this, I should point out that "J-Pop" is a convenient way to talk about all Japanese music. There is a difference between J-Rock and J-Pop just as there is between classical and romantic, but what to say depends on the circumstances. Typically it's perfectly acceptable to throw everything with an orchestral sound under "classical" and to call any current Japanese music "J-Pop." There's a difference, but it's not absolutely essential to distinguish all the time.
Case in point: If you're at a convention and you overhear a couple of people talking about L'Arc and "other J-Pop artists," don't be a fangirl and make a point to correct them. Chances are they don't care, and that's just fine.
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Zoe
Joined: 05 Jul 2003
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 12:00 pm
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Miagi wrote: | Case in point: If you're at a convention and you overhear a couple of people talking about L'Arc and "other J-Pop artists," don't be a fangirl and make a point to correct them. Chances are they don't care, and that's just fine. |
Trust me, that's not likely to happen.
The problem these days is everybody at conventions is referring to all J-music as J-rock. J-pop is understandable because of the ambiguity of the word. Some people see it as a genre, some people see it as an all-encompassing word ("pop"ular).
Kevin Lilliard's review of Ushicon in the latest Animerica really saddened me. Not just because I have a personal hand in the J-Pop programming there, but Koda Kumi isn't even anywhere CLOSE to being rock X_x
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jmays
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 1:19 pm
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Huh, I'm surprised. Maybe "J-Rock" just sounds cooler and more underground. But people are weird that way.
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Zoe
Joined: 05 Jul 2003
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 2:18 pm
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I think it's because of VK cosplayers and the fact that Duel Jewel was the first noticeable non-anime music guest.
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Vigilante024
Joined: 11 Jul 2003
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 2:45 pm
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yay! about time! I've been waiting forever for them to get released here
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