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Of all the company's to license one of my favorite anime, why did it have to be funimation?!

::cries::

I was sitting next door at anime boston in a game show when the kodocha song starting playing in the room next door.

"omfg, thats a funimation panel.."
"nyooo~~~!!!!"

there was much weeping and discontent Sad

Um.... why?

Dude, seriously, nothing pertaining to the actual release of the DVD or possible TV broadcast has been said yet, and for fucks sake (apparently) they played the Japanese Opening. So how is this a bad thing?

a couple reasons.

but first, they've only owned the license for a short while, and are planning a release in 2005. they sure as heck haven't gotten around to mauling (meaning dubbing) the intro yet.

Second, they're adaptions are particularly bad IMO.

nagashi wrote:

they sure as heck haven't gotten around to mauling (meaning dubbing) the intro yet.

Even though Fruits Basket (a show along the same "cute li'l shoujo with a massive fanbase" lines as Kodocha) didn't get a butchered intro...

nagashi wrote:

Second, they're adaptions are particularly bad IMO.

Explain. As I recall, the only property they've ever really mis-handled has been Dragon Ball.

I consider their work on furuba to be awful, sorry Sad

nagashi wrote:

I consider their work on furuba to be awful, sorry Sad

Again, you are irritatingly vague. Explain in detail.

What are you complaining about... at the very least, you will get an untouched sub version on DVD. Yes, we all know that Funi likes to dub the songs for the English dub version. So what? As much as the issue that 90% of the songs dubbed into English grate on my nerves, I know that the better version is still there.

As for dubbing it? You know they gotta adapt it for the U.S. And that's subjective at best. This would be a hard show for any domestic company to dub. I'm very happy to hear the news of this series getting the license, because it means that in all probablity I'll finally get to see the whole thing. Smile

Yes, you have to adapt it for the US. as far as what 'adapting' it means, to me that means having the options to turn subtitles on and off. No other 'adaptation' is wanted or needed.

as for finally getting to see the whole thing, fansubs have been available.

Licensing typically marks the END of availabilty of a quality release of a series, not the beginning. There are exceptions....

nagashi wrote:

Yes, you have to adapt it for the US. as far as what 'adapting' it means, to me that means having the options to turn subtitles on and off.

An option you will still have available.

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No other 'adaptation' is wanted or needed.

Even as a sub enthusiast, I'm well aware that there are dub fans out there who would want it dubbed. I'm also equally aware of people who have poorer eyesight and learning disabilities such as dyslexia that prevent them from enjoying a sub version for all it's worth.

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as for finally getting to see the whole thing, fansubs have been available.

With that many episodes out there, the entirety of the seires has not been readily availble. The first 40 episodes or so were fairly easy to find. Beyond that, it wasn't easy.

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Licensing typically marks the END of availabilty of a quality release of a series, not the beginning. There are exceptions....

A quality release? Considering we are dealing with a series out there that wasn't one of the readily made digisubs, I'd say that many of those people would be happy to replace their VHS tapes with a DVD version any day. Better video and audio quality that will keep many years beyond what a VHS tape will give... I'm all for that.

Considering that many subbers out there have only 1-2 years of Japanese under their belts, and think that they are somehow now fluent enough to translate all anime series accurately and consistently baffles me. I constantly run into the: R1 DVD's are full of spelling mistakes and grammar errors excuse. But it's a rare thing that they are pointed out. While I must admit that I've seen them once or twice, it's not common. In fact, I'd say it's far more commonly found in the fansub world.

Be happy that you will finally be able to get a quality release.

They know the audience, Kodomo will be touched about as much as Fruits Basket. Quit crying, it makes you sound like you'd rather never have a chance at owning a good quality, legitimate version. Only someone who isn't really a fan would want that.

Ignorring the previous posts' topics, I'm happy that a release date for the Blue Gender movie was announced. I think Funimation did an excellent job with Blue Gender and can't wait to see the movie. I'll have something to look forward to this summer.

As the 95 theses against FanDUMB says (links to which appear to be dead unfortunately)- A series being licensed is a cause for joy, not mourning

Kodocha especially could use someone with access to the scripts and a lot of experience under their belts given that Sanna talks and raps at a million miles an hour. I remember when Fairy Princess Ren was fansubbed, it broke like 3 translators. Kodocha isn't that much easier, especially given all of the rude slang Sanna uses

nagashi wrote:

Yes, you have to adapt it for the US. as far as what 'adapting' it means, to me that means having the options to turn subtitles on and off. No other 'adaptation' is wanted or needed.

as for finally getting to see the whole thing, fansubs have been available.

Licensing typically marks the END of availabilty of a quality release of a series, not the beginning. There are exceptions....

You're bloody naive.

To say that fansubs are "quality releases" is not only the biggest fallacy imaginable, but it also shows your ignorance and misunderstanding. Fansubs are done by a couple of college students with a few years of Japanese under their belt. FUNimation translations are done by professionals with more than intro Japanese to their name.

Fruits Basket was very well done, and truthfully, if you're basing your judgement on how FUNi handled the series based on a couple of digisubs, then you need to wake up. Unless you can claim full understanding of the Japanese language, and can point out where FUNi screwed up the translations, then you have no excuse to complain.

And if adapting means "having the options to turn subtitles on and off," then you should have no problem with their DVD releases. Bilingual DVD? Subtitles that can be turned on and off? Professional video transfers? Professional translating?

What part of the Furuba sub release did you not like? If you say "the translations were bad," then I weep for the future of anime.

If you're a person that doesn't touch dubs anyway, then having a dub on a DVD that doesn't suit you is no reason to scream bloody rape about an anime series. Having a dub on a DVD doesn't mean that the rest of the disc has been tainted (though FUNi produced a damned good dub for Furuba).

I've loved Kodocha since the first time I saw it years ago, and there isn't a company I trust more to handle the series than FUNimation.

I think all mad about this move should all just sit back, and be happy we're going to get an official release that will most likely have an uncut subbed track. Who else other then Funimation was going to bring this 100+ ep OLD anime over? It's a classic, and it's dated, and I am absolutly amazed and ecstatic about it being brought over here. It means I don't have to invest in those crappy bootlege boxsets, so halleluah!

And Funimation did a SUPERB job with Fruits Basket. As far as I could tell, the sub track was flawless in translation, and the only complaint I have with the dub was Yuki's voice. But if you don't like the dub, don't watch it. The whole series being released on 4 dvds was pretty damn nice too.

SakechanBD wrote:

I've loved Kodocha since the first time I saw it years ago, and there isn't a company I trust more to handle the series than FUNimation.

Acctually, I think I could've trusted Geneon more Very Happy

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But anyway, yeah. I do think it's past time that the series was liscenced. It's been in demand for a long time (wasn't it already released as Manga here a long time ago?). Still, there is such thing as a quality fansub I do believe. But if the series liscenced, then there isn't really any reason to cry about the loss of the fansubs (although, a major exception would be if 4Kids liscensed it. hoo boy. =/). If the company has a respectible reputation, then there's no reason to complain.

Funimation, the only two experiences with their work I've had that I can remember is Dragonballs (so-so), and Blue Gender (pretty good). I do hope that they do well with this one.

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