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AQuin1904
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In a world where Valkyria Chronicles 4 quotes Commando, certain people really do need to rethink how they present east-west divides. A whole generation of Japanese nerds is even just as insufferable about Monty Python and the Holy Grail as the ones you all probably know locally.
Can confirm that the presentation is near-identical. (Not having the text sequestered in a little box at the bottom of the screen should become the new standard if it hasn't already.) |
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RockSplash
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I agree completely with this week's article. People are so obsessed with Japan being this mystical place that avoids western works, when needs are needs regardless. There is an argument in Star Wars that the newest creators are trying to copy George Lucas, when Lucas was inspired by Mobius and French comic books, samurai films, and golden age science fiction novels. I think more people need to realize how globalized Japan and the world itself is. Is there any culture that only consumes their own content? Honestly, Americans(I say as I myself am one) are famous for avoiding foreign ideas and cultures like the plague. But I hope that idea is changing, and people can realize how Jrpg should not be seen Any different from any other rpg.
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Nate148
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as a fyi the Tsukihime remake got split into two games this is part one part two might have our unlucky girl's route plus the sister and maid routes
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irenatheunicorn
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It sounded like the article was making the point that "Japanese weirdness" some people complain about might have been inspired by western works so complaining about Japanese works being weird might just be making fun of yourself in the end. I don't know anyone who actually gets upset if Japanese media references American movies like Star Wars or Terminator. I see more complaints when Japanese-isms pop up in western works or even Japanese works themselves like the people the article mentions when people get upset Final Fantasy or Soulslike becomes "too anime" which is obviously a dumb complaint |
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MagicPolly
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I can't believe we're finally getting localized Tsukihime, we're one step closer to localized FSN now
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DRWii
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If anyone tries to act like JRPGs haven't/shouldn't ever be "influenced by the West," here's the two easiest counter-points in my mind:
1) Yuji Horii, creator of Dragon Quest, has openly admitted that his primary influences on DQ's design were Ultima and Wizardry. 2) The game I see generally pointed to as "the first RPG developed in Japan" is The Black Onyx, developed by Bullet-Proof Software. The lead designer on the game and founder of the company? Henk Rogers, a man who was neither born nor raised in Japan. On the Tsukihime remake, it bears mentioning that "A piece of blue glass moon" is specifically a remake of the Inner Routes; the Outer Routes and Satsuki's Route will be in "The other side of red garden," which currently only has one teaser trailer and no release window. So Sacchin's gonna have to stay sad a little while longer. |
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Cho_Desu
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And then he'd go on to acquire the needed licensing rights from the Soviet Union in order for Nintendo to release Tetris on the Game Boy. |
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FinalVentCard
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Six of one, half-a-dozen of the other. Although I didn't set out to make the point RockSplash made, he does make a good one: there's a ton of weird xenophilia towards Japan as an "isolated nation unspoilt by Western influence". And this is just pants (besides, when these people say "Western", what they mean is "Jewish"). Even in anime, you see stuff like G Gundam and its totally underappreciated references to French New Wave cinema--or, if you wanna be a bit less hoity-toity than I am, look at PROMARE and how the Fire Force chief and the chief of ICE are supposed to reference Vin Diesel and Dwayne Johnson. Hell, look at how much Kojima hobknobs with American filmmakers and actors (it's not just for the free weed, lol). On the other hand, yeah, Irena is making the point I had originally set out to make: so much of what people easily slam as "Anime weirdness" has its roots in... the same stuff that formed the bedrock of American pop culture. Nevertheless: we're in an era where this line of thinking is becoming quickly recognized as bunk, and more and more people can comfortably and openly proclaim their love of cute cozy farm sims without being considered weird. |
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DRWii
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While it's easily debunked, I was reminded that "Japanese-Jewish common ancestry theory" is a thing, so now I have the mental image of an anti-Semitic otaku seeing those five words and having a quiet mental breakdown. Thanks for that bit of amusement. |
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i got the shivers!
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I'm not too familiar with the term non-binary and what all it includes but if you are asking if they're one of those characters where their gender is unknown then that is correct. They are like Najimi from Komi-san or Crona from Soul Eater in that it's never revealed to the audience and we are left to wonder. Even the game itself is coded to hide the gender funnily enough while everyone else is given either male or female tags. |
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Zimmer
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FinalVentCard
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No, that's not what "non-binary" means. Non-binary means you don't identify as either specifically or exclusively masculine or feminine. It's not that people don't know whether they're a boy or a girl, because the character wouldn't identify as either in the first place. Other characters also make sure to use they/them pronouns for Juniper. I hadn't noticed that the first time around until someone else pointed it out. |
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wolf10
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Personally, I think Juniper is just too slippery for either the gender binary or the binary-nonbinary binary. |
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AiddonValentine
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Juniper is enby. Even their voice actor is enby. Hell, the game's code reveals they're enby as there are gender values for each character. Men are 0, women are 1, Juniper is a 2. Which is very funny as that is non-binary computer coding. They made a pun! So yes, it's not up for debate, Juniper is enby. |
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Juno016
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On the one hand, I think it's really cool they got an enby to voice the character and I'm also a certified lover of good puns, and that sounds like a good pun. On the other hand... that still sounds like a stretch. I think what people here are saying isn't that Juniper isn't non-binary, but that the clues for the character themself are ambiguous enough to allow room for interpretation. Meaning it's valid to consider them non-binary and valid to think of them in other ways, too. The coding just means "not 0 or 1", since the character in question was obvious not meant to fit either mold. |
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