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mdo7
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Let me start with adding this: There were already western companies already getting their own original western-produced anime even before Nettflix and Crunchyroll (or any streaming platform you can think of) existed. Did people in anime fandom forgot Little Nemo? That was a US-Japan co-production from 1989, it came out in Japan first and it didn't get a US theatrical release until 1992. Did any of these anime fans that complain about "Western companies need to stay out of anime" complain about Little Nemo when Little Nemo was a western idea and backed by western producers and writers like Chris Columbus (yes, that Chris Columbus, the one who directed the 1st 2 Home Alone film series, Mrs. Doubtfire, and the first 2 Harry Potter films)? I never heard any complain from today's anime fanbase bashing Little Nemo and faking ignorance is not an excuse, I expected the fanbase to have mature enough to studied or even did some background research on this even from decades ago. I'm kind of surprised some of these demographic that complain about western companies getting involved with anime didn't bother to read these past ANN articles from decade(s) ago:
Mike Toole's 2011 article: Anime or Not The List's 2014 article: 7 Japan-International Co-Productions The List's 2016 article: 6 Japan-International Co-Productions Revisited And do I have to bring up This Week in Anime from last year talking about western co-production anime. So don't tell me there was a big amount of ignorance in the anime/manga fandom because those same "western companies need to stay out of anime" demographic should've already known about this for a long time. And you know what, I've seen this before and this wasn't targeted at anime, but OEL manga (and also at manhwa & manhua) before that. I didn't hear the same "Western companies need to stay out of anime" audiences going after South Korea or China for pushing anime adaptation of Manhwa/webtoons and Manhua, was there any backlash from this other then the anti-OEL manga backlash that unfortunately targeted Korean manhwa and other non-Japanese East Asian graphic novels. Are these the same people that complain about Hollywood and western companies shouldn't get involved with anime are the same people that complain about OEL manga & non-Japanese East Asian graphic novels like in the case of manhwa/webtoons and manhua decades ago, then that means these people are hypocrite and probably I shouldn't use this term: Japanese supremacists (think white supremacist but replace white supremacy with Japanese and treat Koreans and Chinese and Southeast Asians as inferior), because that would explain why these same people keep changing targets when it comes to western stuff getting Japanese or making stuff that looks like Japanese medium. What do these people are going to complain about when Amazing Agent Luna, Aoi House, and other OEL manga (ie: Megatokyo) in the near future going to get anime adaptation, how are they going to react if western companies team up with Japanese companies to adapt OEL manga into anime given that a western webcomic is getting a anime adaptation courtesy of OLM Studio, how are they going to react to that? If these same "western companies shouldn't get involved with anime" complainers/critics don't put up with this, who are they going to go after next if that become accepted? I mean why are people complaining about western producers and western studios doing anime since it already happened before streaming and anime became mainstream in the US/west, I don't understand the complaint and backlash from the western anime fandom/communities. Last edited by mdo7 on Mon Nov 18, 2024 5:06 pm; edited 3 times in total |
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cutslo
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Honestly, the relatively "artistic" endeavors you like to talk about aside, I think there's just an increasing trend to add "X: The Anime" to your corporate IP mining workflow. Just like you get X: The ComicBook, X: The Cereal and X: The Video Game and used to get X: The Saturday Morning Cartoon. Gotta reach every last person on the planet with your IP somehow, and people do like anime, and if you give Japan some money they'll make you one of those.
I mean, even if you think Suicide Squad: The Anime or Rick and Morty: The Anime are worth watching, that is literally the only reason those exist. |
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yeehaw
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I don't get how crunchyroll helping produce MORE anime is healthy for the industry when too much anime is part of the problem |
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light turner
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Even when it's written and created outside of Japan they still label it as anime for marketing reasons like with Castlevania and Scott Pilgrim. Anime is just a marketing word since cartoon has negative and childish connotations to it. If you can hire a studio to make you an actual anime then it's all the better. In same cases it does turn out some good stuff like Edgerunners. |
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Greed1914
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It depends. Overproduction is certainly a problem in terms of things like working conditions and rushed projects. However, a major partner pulling out and reducing the funding available risks that there is less work out there to keep the studios afloat. There would be a decent chance that the remaining partners would tighten up their own belts and fund fewer projects while also expecting the studios to make due like they have before. |
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paulchaested
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For those wondering how much anime CR co-produces and has co-produced, the link below is a huge list of shows they’ve been involved in that I have kept track of since 2015. I lost count but they’ve co-produced well over 150 shows (possibly way more).
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=2052669 They started very small with 5-10 min short series and it wasn’t until 2017 where they really started to ramp up. From 2017-2022, they co-produced an average of 2-4 shows per season. Once they got acquired by Sony they’ve been consistently co-producing around 9-13 shows since per season since Spring 2022 with Spring 2024 being their record breaking season at 16 co-produced shows. Last edited by paulchaested on Mon Nov 18, 2024 4:53 pm; edited 3 times in total |
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Joe Mello
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Math If 33% of the anime being turned out now has Crunchyroll involved, that means there's 67% that doesn't. If the "ideal" amount of anime output is significantly more than 67% of what the industry is turning out now, than one can conclusively say Crunchyroll has a major role in the production of anime. I don't know what the ideal amount of production is, but I'd probably lean towards supporting the Answerman's statement. I'd also have thought Netflix would've been a larger presence in the context of this question. |
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