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v1cious
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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:49 am
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Then what the hell is the point?
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Cardcaptor Takato
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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:03 am
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v1cious wrote: | Then what the hell is the point? |
To stream Ghibli films in countries that don’t have HBO.
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Kougeru
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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:07 am
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The point is that other countries besides the US and Canada exist. US will get them from. HBO soon enough. Can't be worse than Netflix's 4 Mbps for 1080p. Way too low for animated content, especially stuff this gorgeous.
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Ozzy4k
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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:54 am
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rhis is why i hate america
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Tenbyakugon
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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:11 am
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Ozzy4k wrote: | rhis is why i hate america |
So the films will be available via HBO Max (which would be why Netflix couldn’t stream them).
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kotomikun
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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:21 am
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Tenbyakugon wrote: | So the films will be available via HBO Max (which would be why Netflix couldn’t stream them). |
Yes. Thing is, far more people in the US have Netflix than HBO Max. Making it another thing we have to buy into.
Ultimately, though, the ever-shifting mire of legal streaming exclusivity divided among a gradually increasing number of separate services is a capitalism problem, not an America problem. Media companies couldn't kill the internet, so they're trying their best to transform it into the old broadcast TV model. Which, so far, mainly seems to giving digital piracy a new lease on life.
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Estoma
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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:35 am
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That's a punch in the gut. oof.
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Cardcaptor Takato
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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:52 am
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If you want to watch Ghibli movies without paying for HBO Max, you can easily buy them for BD at Walmart for like $15 a pop. It’s not like Ghibli movies are particularly hard to find or that we haven’t watched them all a dozen times by now.
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Tenbyakugon
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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:53 am
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kotomikun wrote: |
Tenbyakugon wrote: | So the films will be available via HBO Max (which would be why Netflix couldn’t stream them). |
Yes. Thing is, far more people in the US have Netflix than HBO Max. Making it another thing we have to buy into.
...Increasing number of separate services is a capitalism problem, not an America problem. Media companies couldn't kill the internet, so they're trying their best to transform it into the old broadcast TV model. Which, so far, mainly seems to giving digital piracy a new lease on life. |
That’s a choice people have to make as far as buying into it but “need” isn’t the right word for it. It depends on what form of the product you’re seeking you want but, like with everything you want to purchase in life, you must decide what is best for you.
It’s neither a capitalism or United States problem, it’s merely just a personal property issue and Ghibli is just entitled to where it places its product.
I think it’s an interesting thought you’ve arisen though, that the collective of streaming providers could be pushing consumers to the black market because of the collective pricing of providers compared to cable pricing. I think that happens anyway with some people because that’s just fiscally more responsible and U.S.’ laws haven’t codified the illegality of the action of “third party” streaming (unless my knowledge is now outdated) to where it black-and-white is so. (This doesn’t exactly qualify as piracy, by definition, either.) We saw this behavior in more sort of laypeople when they saw they could get services like Terrarium TV and Kodi through their Amazon Fire devices when this is something so many technologically inclined individuals had already been doing this sort of thing for years (why MegaVideo was shut down years prior). Producers attempt to use their decisions to outweigh those of consumers, however in the market the latter is much more prominent, right, so it’s difficult for consumers to actually be overridden if there is a way to circumvent producers’. That back-and-forth of who outdoing who is just the market.
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Silver Kirin
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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:35 am
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I'm from lat-am so I was very excited by the news but I'm sorry for all Ghibli fans in Canada and the U.S., it kinda of hurts that HBO has the exclusive rights for your territory.
I wonder how Netflix is going to deal with the dubs in latin america, some Ghibli movies were dubbed twice into neutral spanish. There are 3 versions of Nausicaa, one made in Los Angeles in the 80s and another 2 made in Mexico (the first two versions are based in the Warriors of the Wind dub and the second has the best cast in my opinion), Kiki and Arriety have one dub made by Disney and another by an independent studio (curiously some actors from Arriety voiced the same characters in both versions). Then there are some movies that were never dubbed like Ocean Waves.
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Adv193
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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:59 am
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This news doesn't bug me too much as it has been over a month since the Studio Ghibli films were released digitally and I have been working up my collection with them and will continue to do so until it is complete. While I do have to wait until Fall for The Wind Rises to come out digitally I am in no rush.
Also FYI, the soundtracks for the movies are available on ITunes at simple prices so I have been collecting and listening to it as well. (note that the Arietty soundtrack is listed by it's original name from the Japanese version and not it's English title The Secret World of Arietty)
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LegitPancake
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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:34 am
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Hopefully this confirms Ghibli movies will be available on Crave, since HBO Max won’t be streaming in Canada.
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Pepperidge
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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:53 am
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LegitPancake wrote: | Hopefully this confirms Ghibli movies will be available on Crave, since HBO Max won’t be streaming in Canada. |
Uhh, yeah, don't count on that.
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Angel M Cazares
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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:35 am
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Cardcaptor Takato wrote: | If you want to watch Ghibli movies without paying for HBO Max, you can easily buy them for BD at Walmart for like $15 a pop. It’s not like Ghibli movies are particularly hard to find or that we haven’t watched them all a dozen times by now. |
Exactly. Access to Ghibli movies for people in the U.S., Canada and Japan is not a problem.
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Issac Sarrowtail
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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:13 pm
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Cardcaptor Takato wrote: |
v1cious wrote: | Then what the hell is the point? |
To stream Ghibli films in countries that don’t have HBO. |
Like Canada...
LegitPancake wrote: | Hopefully this confirms Ghibli movies will be available on Crave, since HBO Max won’t be streaming in Canada. |
I would hope but Crave isn't known for it's anime stable? I don't think?
The Canadian streaming market it still something of a black box to me.
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