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DuskyPredator
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:22 pm
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So Evileye is in fact a vampire? I wonder if she has a connection to the two people that appeared at the end. It should be simply disturbing that Ains even went along with kidnap human thing. Just needed a taste again of the controlling evil army being a part of the main character. I actually kind of recently managed to finish the campaign of Shadow of War, so a little fun at evil army thing.
In general, the season kind of had misses, that just made this last episode all the more enjoyable. It always feels like it has had a problem with direction, I already said plenty earlier. But I still find it generally enjoyable, and I am happy to hear we will not need to wait a similar length of time for the third season.
I give a rating Good (7/10), it is worth seeing. Hopefully it can move forward at some real overarching plot, a goal that we the audience can be privy to. Sebas really felt like the MVP of this season.
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Stark700
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:00 am
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First episode of the third season is out.
Wow.....Albedo LOL. She returned in a lewd way. Her obsession with Aniz is bigger than ever! Glad to see many character return this season again. Ainz is enjoying his life so I guess the episode served more as a buildup for the rest of the season.
That bicorn looks pretty badass if you ask me. Also the new OP song is eeriely catchy.
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Harleyquin
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:30 am
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S3 #1
New viewers to the series: Don't waste your time watching this if you didn't follow this from the very beginning. You'll be completely lost and won't understand some of the in-jokes thrown in this episode.
For everyone else and those who watched the most recent adaptation: Following on immediately from the aftermath of the commotion in the capital, this is probably the first and only time we get to see the denizens of Nazarick enjoy some downtime before the main plot takes off. The last season took everything too seriously at times, so it's high time viewers get a whole episode to laugh at the antics of the Nazarick denizens before more serious events take centre stage.
Don't know about the OP song, but as always the OP visuals give a big hint of what's to come. Recurring characters from previous airings and a large new cast show there's much for Ainz and gang to overcome before the end of the season.
I don't know which is more funny: Albedo being a succubus with zero sexual experience and getting caught out on this by her subordinates when trying to ride a Bicorn, or the Pleiades gang taking Ainz too seriously in season 1 of the short skit and developing their sentai routines to the point Ainz has no idea where to hide his face in shame.
For a comedy episode, there's still time to throw in cameo introductions of the Nazarick ecosystem. I don't remember the professor-like minion tasked with delivering the message boards from earlier adaptations. If he has an important role to play in this season, it's not going to be gleaned from anything shown in this episode alone.
If previous seasons are any indication, slow-paced beginnings are the norm for this franchise with lots of character exposition and background thrown in along the way. I'm not bothered provided there are intermissions with action scenes interspersed along the way. The animators have never disappointed when asked to deliver and I'm looking forward to what's to come, especially if the OP is any indication. It looks like Ainz is shelving his armoured personal for this adaptation and is getting stuck in with his original form and powers.
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Yttrbio
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:48 am
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I was ready to bail on the show, but the "evil weirdos sitcom" part of the show is so much more fun to me than the "meaningless conflict with the infinitely powerful" that dominated last season. I'll probably drop off once it gets back to the "story," but for now, I'll stick around.
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Cam0
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:38 pm
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The opening and ending are once again pretty good. Overlord just doesn't seem to disappoint on that front.
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DuskyPredator
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:41 am
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This is what the first episode of the second season should have been like. When you get in with a first episode, you have to look at what the favourite things people would like is. The second season kind of failed as it seemed to think everyone liked random politics with characters that we did not know who they were, which really was most of that season. This episode though, focused on the titular overlord and the dark denizens of Nazarick, which is cool and funny, and the real reason people watch this show.
I think the show will do so much better if it focuses on these unique parts of this franchise.
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Harleyquin
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:18 am
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#2
All of the comedy is in the throne room (as well as the obligatory comedy skit at the end). Ains being human on the inside doesn't remember the conversation he had with Demiurgos up in the air when he talked about the new world they ended up in as a box of jewels. Demiurgos interpreted the small talk as his great lord's desire to conquer the world and it seems plans are so far down the road that Ains himself is literally powerless to do anything except get swept along by the momentum. Don't his NPC subordinates ever cotton on to the odd green glow he has when his archlich form gets emotionally agitated?!
The last time TV viewers looked at the village of Carne, a wall was being built and Ains's goblin summon army was preparing to integrate with the human residents under the watchful(?) eye of the Werewolf Pleiades. Now it seems the village is doing reasonably well, but it's short-handed despite the stable situation and there isn't a blacksmith available who can repair tools and do simple metalwork. The potions' specialist is still doing his job Ains ordered him to do but he's gotten nowhere in pursuit of the girl his heart is set on.
The only other time I've seen a Barghest is in the Witcher video game series. Nothing wrong with this specimen though. Although a low-level foe it requires the girl's surprisingly powerful leadership yell to keep casualties to zero. With the goblin prince's final pronouncement it seems the story arc's main plot has finally begun to start moving.
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DuskyPredator
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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 5:12 am
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Wow, Ains is an idiot, he did not even realize that world domination was what everyone was working towards. I am shocked that he was shocked.
I am liking this third season so much more than the second in how it is doing things. Starting off with a mission plan of what is going on. And going back to the village, which felt like it was completely forgotten in the second season. Seeing what the goblins are up to with the likes of helping the village, is why I was interested in this show. And am interested in how things may develop. I am thinking that Demiurage was likely talking about the psychopathic princess as the only one he thinks is worth it in the kingdom.
Harleyquin wrote: | The only other time I've seen a Barghest is in the Witcher video game series. Nothing wrong with this specimen though. |
I am familiar with Barghest from Dungeons and Dragons, and are supposed to have an often connection with goblins. I am mostly familiar with their 5th edition version, where they are a curse placed on goblin kind by a Yuggoloth (a subclass of fiend), born to normal goblins, its wolf form is its true form able to have the appearance of a goblin, and its mission is to pretty much kill and consume the souls of goblins. Probably not relevant to the lore of this series though.
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Harleyquin
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:08 am
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#3
Enri is definitely NOT just a mere village girl. That command aura of hers can get even ogres to bend knee. No idea what that skill is in terms of the game or the world in general, if she cultivates her hidden gift something unexpected might come out of it. The village probably sense she's their best hope, so no surprise she's getting a promotion.
One surprising side-effect of Ainz subduing the giant hamster: the balance of power in the forest has shifted dramatically with the remaining two factions joining forces to take on Nazarick's fake outpost. This of course put the village of Carne in danger, so Ains decides to pull a few strings from behind the scenes to give Enri a helping hand.
Lupusvega shows off her true character when the tone of her voice changes. I don't think viewers have heard her in anything other than her casual, big-sister demeanour. But when her eyes and manner of speech (she ends her sentences like the other Pleiades in this mode) harden she's a sadist who would revel in Carne's despair and destruction. This might be a problem since Ains is clearly trying not to see his first creation go up in flames while his subordinates are eagerly hoping for the opposite. How is the Overlord going to reconcile everything without it blowing up in his face?!
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DuskyPredator
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:01 am
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So she is a wolf in sheep's clothing.
I am up for them getting more magical creatures under the village's control. Hopefully Ogres are the kind of thing that can be controlled, rather than dumb giants that may eat almost anything that goes near them.
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Harleyquin
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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:30 am
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#4
In every effective organization, there is unity in direction from those at the top to those serving below. Just as well Ainz had his little lecture with Lupusregina in the first part, otherwise she really would have let the villagers fend for themselves against the invaders appearing at the end. Granted, Ainz gets by through improvisation and ad-lib, but his subordinates now know that everything bar the three individuals in Carne village is expendable. It's now up to Enri and the goblins to make sure more survivors make it to the end.
I don't remember Ainz having a 1-to-1 session with Aura, but this week's little tete-a-tete makes one wonder what kind of relationship Ainz wants to have with his subordinates. Especially those who look much younger than their chronological age. Despite her mannerisms and outfit, Aura is female and it certainly shows when Ains broaches the topic of the future.
When was the last time Ains went into battle in his default state? Season 1? After the duel with the troll king all he ended up with was wrinkles on his outfit and a slightly bloodstained mace. Aside from the denizens of Nazarick, that troll king would have been lethal to the typical adventuring party what with its incredible regenerative powers. Interesting how he raised his aura of despair to level 5 to ensure a clean kill, I didn't think 5 was necessary because of the noted power differential between Nazarick and the rest of the world.
Now to see if Lupusregina gets her hands dirty for just the three VIPs or goes all out against the mysterious invaders. Enri and company will probably see action too, it should be interesting to see what kind of outcome is reached.
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DuskyPredator
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Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:20 am
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Harleyquin wrote: | When was the last time Ains went into battle in his default state? Season 1? After the duel with the troll king all he ended up with was wrinkles on his outfit and a slightly bloodstained mace. Aside from the denizens of Nazarick, that troll king would have been lethal to the typical adventuring party what with its incredible regenerative powers. Interesting how he raised his aura of despair to level 5 to ensure a clean kill, I didn't think 5 was necessary because of the noted power differential between Nazarick and the rest of the world. |
If it is like D&D, which I got into since the show started, and I am seeing increasing similarities to parts of it, assumedly level 5 is a 5th level spell, which a 9th level Wizard gets access to, Where trolls generally have a CR of 5, ogres are 2, where really 5th level spell would not really be overkill. Only I don't know what sort of spell for a D&D equivalent could be, a 5th level sleep would not be as effective. If questioning if the Troll here fits, it does actually match trolls in D&D, with their regeneration ability, game lore says that is why they are always hungry. Nagas are also a D&D monster, usually they only have a humanoid face, although I was watching a monster ecology a couple weeks back on Naga which included one with a torso. Interesting addition, not sure if part of the overlord universe, but in D&D Naga reincarnate after a few days of death, with the worst thing possible is it being stopped by being turned into an undead.
Harleyquin wrote: | I don't remember Ainz having a 1-to-1 session with Aura, but this week's little tete-a-tete makes one wonder what kind of relationship Ainz wants to have with his subordinates. Especially those who look much younger than their chronological age. Despite her mannerisms and outfit, Aura is female and it certainly shows when Ains broaches the topic of the future. |
Again, if like fantasy games like D&D, Elves (including Dark Elves) are not mentally adults until they are 100, granted the twins do not look like the Dark Elves of Forgotten realms, as well as the elves in that become physical adults at the normal age.
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Harleyquin
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:18 am
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#5
I like how Enri said to herself that events were moving along for her and the village as if dancing on the palm of some unseen, malevolent god at the start of the episode. As it turns out, she's hit the nail on the head but only the audience (and Ains) are in on the joke.
So the little test mentioned last week was to ascertain how effective Carne village was at defending itself from sudden attack. No doubt AIns is rehearsing future scenarios when his Nazarick kingdom having gone public comes under siege, but he's not said a thing behind the test so future episodes might reveal his purpose. The "troll zombie" he talked about last week really did come to pass, but it seems he wanted to see what troll zombies were capable of rather than anything overtly malevolent towards his fief (he seems indifferent to the fate of the village bar the three VIPs).
Since Lupusregina obeyed orders and saved the potion maker's hide at the last minute, it looks like Nazarick is still unified in its treatment of the human experimental subjects for the time being. I get the feeling this story arc is going to end soon since the relationship between the couple has progressed significantly and the meal appears to be a trigger/segue into the next story arc. There are SO many more individuals who haven't taken their bow yet and it's already episode 5. If this is a 12-episode adaptation with no recap, there's not much time to get going with the second major arc in this season's adaptation.
I for one would like to see what that final OP animation scene is about as well as learning more about the blonde king and his court mage who were interested in Momon.
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Harleyquin
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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:31 am
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#6
New story arc, so no action whatsoever and the franchise's obligatory introduction of all of the major players to take the stage. While the animators were it, they gave cameos to the royal family of season 2, the eldest son finally making his formal introduction.
The first scene essentially gave viewers a run-down of the power rating of the new empire relative to Nazarick and its denizens. As before, Nazarick would utterly crush the empire if they seriously went to war, but the empire personages are markedly superior to the Kingdom which debuted in season 2. No idea how this empire matches up with the mysterious organisation or kingdom which briefly controlled Shalltear in Season 1 though, at the very least the vampire in season 2 would probably be in trouble against the empire's court mage.
The amount of screen time devoted to the tier 3 mage with that spendthrift father living on past glories and beyond his means seems to indicate she's going to play a not-insignificant role in this story arc. She and her fellow mercenaries show up in the OP, so they've a part to play but no clue as to how big or important that role is.
Since Ains approved of Demiurgos' plan to increase the renown of Adventurer Momon and the nascent Ainz Ooal Gown nation, I'm starting to wonder if the quest to raid the undiscovered ruins is all an elaborate ruse prepared by the Arch-demon for some higher purpose. Ains' pointed question at the assembled mercenaries seems to indicate he's in it for knowledge acquisition, he'll be fine whatever is thrown at him.
Seven episodes to finish this new arc means this might be comparable to the kingdom arc of last season, which I found more fun than the preceding lizardmen arc. Here's hoping it delivers by the end.
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Tuor_of_Gondolin
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Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:37 pm
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Ains' question at the end, and his statement after their response (well, only one guy responded, but he seemed to speak for everyone, and that's how Ains took it), tells me that they. Are. Screwed. If money is their only motivation, then Ains isn't going to stop whatever is about to happen to them. And since this is Demiurgos' plan, there is definitely going to be some "unpleasantness" involved.
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