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TasteyCookie
Joined: 19 Jan 2017
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 Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:28 pm
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This is a fantastic step forward! Assuming it goes through though, since Valve hasn't been the most trust-worthy as of late. But an allow everything while giving the option to filter is exactly what the majority of the gaming community wants. Good on you Gaben
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Crext
Joined: 04 Nov 2012
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:33 pm
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Finally I can hide away all of that Call of Duty stuff...
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Great Rumbler
Joined: 03 Oct 2006
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:39 pm
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If they're going to start banning games that are straight up trolling that means about half their catalog is in trouble.
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Nick4x
Joined: 11 Apr 2007
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:39 pm
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| Quote: | | Johnson clarified that, thus far, decisions about Steam content have not been automated or influenced by third parties. The team at Valve has reviewed games for adult or violent content, and other controversial topics such as "politics, sexuality, racism, gender, violence, identity, and so on." |
This is a statement I simply don't take at face value. If this was true, then what prompted the surge of anime-related games to suddenly face potential removal from Steam? If it wasn't a third party, then that means Steam looked through certain games (all of which were anime or anime-themed) and decided that the content, which they agreed was fine when first published, was no longer appropriate... until they decided to review the games (for a 3rd time?) after the backlash they received.
What they're saying now sounds nice, but I'll believe it when I see it. Let their first action towards this new policy be for them to dismiss the cases for take-down of all the games they have for review, seeing as how their content is neither illegal nor trolling.
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MisterLuck
Joined: 19 Apr 2014
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:45 pm
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| Crext wrote: | | Finally I can hide away all of that Call of Duty stuff... |
Hell yeah! Also all that early access garbage.
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CatSword
Joined: 01 Jul 2014
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 4:07 pm
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Sounds like a rather lenient policy. I won't believe it until Euphoria and Saya no Uta are on Steam. 
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Chrono1000
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 4:10 pm
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I am cautiously optimistic that maybe Valve won't be so quick to jump on the censorship train in the future though it will depend on what they actually do. I find it funny though that he confuses anime games with eroge games but at least Steam is implementing parental controls. It won't stop the perpetually offended from demanding for more censorship but it makes it harder to use children as an argument for censorship.
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Kougeru
Joined: 13 May 2008
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 4:13 pm
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so will porn patches be on Steam then? or better yet...will they allow full eroge now?
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Megiddo
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 4:27 pm
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| Kougeru wrote: | | so will porn patches be on Steam then? or better yet...will they allow full eroge now? |
Porn ain't illegal but I'm pretty sure Valve will shoot down this promise to still refuse games that would be "Adult Only" rated by ESRB.
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MarshalBanana
Joined: 31 Aug 2014
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 4:35 pm
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I wonder what Jim Sterling take on this will be?
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MrBonk
Joined: 23 Jan 2015
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 4:39 pm
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So did Valve not end up forcing those Eroge games to censor their games even more then??
Either way, the whole store needs an overhaul to allow the kind of system they talk about to work as well as it should. It's constantly just band aid fixes. (It's still better than trying to navigate PSN. Good god).
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Kougeru
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:36 pm
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| Megiddo wrote: |
| Kougeru wrote: | | so will porn patches be on Steam then? or better yet...will they allow full eroge now? |
Porn ain't illegal but I'm pretty sure Valve will shoot down this promise to still refuse games that would be "Adult Only" rated by ESRB. |
You're probably right but I'll get an army to fight them after they made these claims of basically "anything goes". having Age Verification and auto-hiding Adult games from recommendations should be more than fair enough. TBH, I don't even play Eroge. I just hate censorship or legal things and think that it should be allowed to be sold. Developers/localizes spend a lot time cutting content that often enough adds to the story/relationship. The last eroge I played was Devil on a G String years ago and I felt the vast majority of the ero scenes in that worked well in strengthening the relationships in that story.
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encrypted12345
Joined: 25 Jan 2012
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:56 pm
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| Kougeru wrote: | | so will porn patches be on Steam then? or better yet...will they allow full eroge now? |
It's possible, but I am extremely skeptical. I suspect they plan to say "no porn games because we are a store for minors", or they plan to add an explicit 18+ section to the store where all of the adult games will be segregated (all ages versions will stay in the store proper). Even in the former case, I think they won't interfere with 18+ patches and will be more lax than they were before. At the very least, there won't be surprise bans like Maidens of Michael (something that Steam hasn't fixed yet).
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LT9M
Joined: 06 Jun 2018
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:57 pm
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Now this is what I want to see 
Probably the best outcome towards this situation, thanks Valve
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Greed1914
Joined: 28 Oct 2007
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Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:27 pm
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This certainly sounds like an improvement, especially since individuals are in a better position to decide what content they don't want to see than a company acting as a gatekeeper. That said, at most I think Steam will roll back to allowing censored eroge and the game maker can provide information for a patch. I just have a hard time seeing them going any farther than that, and they're probably figuring people won't complain since they backed off.
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