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Kadmos1



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:14 pm Reply with quote
Someone please explain to me how what he did was illegal. Also, what's this about serial numbers being inputted? Inputted to where and why? The only part I can see as coming across as illegal would perhaps be the dumping (vandalism, littering, etc.).
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Top Gun



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:24 pm Reply with quote
What the hell. Idol culture is completely ****ed from top to bottom.
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Shiflan



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:24 pm Reply with quote
The illegal part was dumping "garbage" somewhere other than in a trash can, it's basically the same thing as littering.

The "serial numbers" thing works like many other kinds of promotions. When you buy a CD (or whatever else) you get a chance to win a prize. You check to see if you won a prize by entering your serial no at the promotion's website. People sometimes buy multiple items to get more chances to win.

So what happened was that some mega-fan really wanted to win whatever prize was being offered for those CDs. He bought hundreds of them to get more chances to win. And for some reason instead of throwing away or selling the CDs he dumped them illegally.
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Blanchimont



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:33 pm Reply with quote
@Shiflan Not prizes or promotions but votes for the election(AKB48 49th Single General Election), in this case...
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NeganTheWise



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:33 pm Reply with quote
I guess the illegal act was the dumping, 11 boxes in the mountains can't be too beneficial to the environment or the local scenery. If he kept them there'd be no way to charge him, but the toxicity that idol culture generates is beyond absurd, buying so many CD's to basically steal entry to/sabotage an event is ridiculous.
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Chrono1000





PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:49 pm Reply with quote
The idea of buying a few CDs I could understand but the level of obsession needed to buy hundreds of them boggles the mind. Stories like this though remind me of how the idol industry can be so big in Japan. To be fair the celebrity culture in the United States is also excessive with channels, magazines, and websites though the giant corporations do make it feel more like a business.
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HeeroTX



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 5:09 pm Reply with quote
Chrono1000 wrote:
The idea of buying a few CDs I could understand but the level of obsession needed to buy hundreds of them boggles the mind. Stories like this though remind me of how the idol industry can be so big in Japan. To be fair the celebrity culture in the United States is also excessive with channels, magazines, and websites though the giant corporations do make it feel more like a business.

Here in the US we're more straightforward. Just hand me $100k and we're good, no need to have the pretense of buying up 1000+ items, just hand me the cash outright. The lottery style event is to provide (the illusion of) "fairness" by saying everyone has a chance and one rich person isn't buying out the results. Obviously, if you have someone motivated enough, then you just game the system by stuffing the draw. There's still a CHANCE that random fan that only buys 1 item will win, but the odds are pretty remote.
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Richmyster84



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 5:25 pm Reply with quote
they should just sell digital albums to cut down on the waste of the CDs ending up in a dump.
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DJStarstryker



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 5:43 pm Reply with quote
I used to live in Japan, and Japan takes garbage seriously. If you put it where it's not supposed to be, you can get heavily fined, like this guy probably is going to.

Honestly, you can throw away CDs in the trash in Japan. You just have to sort it properly based on your locality's rules, and those rules are not easy. You'd have to put the jewel case in plastic recycling, the paper bits in paper recycling, any staples from the booklet in metal recycling, and the CD itself would go in burnable garbage. Imagine doing that for 500+ CDs. Shocked But those things *are* all picked up either at your door or very nearby (apartment buildings, for example, tend to have a central place where all of that building's tenants put the trash) , so it's not like you'd have to go walk up a mountain to dump it. Rolling Eyes

But that's how things go in Japan. Being an island nation and a large percentage of the land is mountainous on top of that, they don't have room for dumps like the US does. They recycle as much parts as they possibly can out of necessity.
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mrsatan



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 5:54 pm Reply with quote
All the waste created by this idiocy is horrifying and disgusting. I wish somebody over there would pass some laws that would break this idol racket.

I'd like to see this industry exposed like what's happening now in Hollywood. People have tried before and got blacklisted for their efforts.
Maybe it will take a death before someone takes notice. Oh wait, that has already happened and nobody did anything.
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Polycell



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:07 pm Reply with quote
Idol culture has a huge amount of momentum behind it; you might just begin to have a tiny sliver of a chance if you could somehow get all the hikikomori, NEETs and herbivores to start living normalish lives, but good luck on that.
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maximilianjenus



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:21 pm Reply with quote
is it a bad thing that the first thing that I tought was "what else was he supossed to do with them?"
is that made worse because I am an AKB fan ?
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R315r4z0r



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:00 pm Reply with quote
I don't understand... if he wanted to dispose of them... why not, you know, throw them away in the trash?

I know Japan has a lot of regulations as far as trash goes, but are you not allowed to throw CDs out?
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Mr. Oshawott



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:15 pm Reply with quote
This guy could have saved himself from all that needless effort by offering up those excess CDs up for sale at a recycling center (unless they're hard to come by?).
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Sakagami Tomoyo



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:16 pm Reply with quote
Chrono1000 wrote:
Stories like this though remind me of how the idol industry can be so big in Japan.

Which is to say, not actually as big as sales figures would suggest, if its grossly obsessive fanbase is pulling stunts like this.

I've made this comment of other things, but it's every bit as apt here: these are symptoms of a very sick society.
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