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Bamble
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I think one of TMS's earliest U.S. efforts, Mighty Orbots, was another one of the exceptions to the rule in that they had actual ownership in that show as well as animating it. It's a pity it was buried in a legal nightmare as that's one series that's crying out for a remaster due to the absolutely amazing quality of its animation.
Disney haven't done much on home video with any Marvel cartoon since 2012 either, depsite there being some 12 seasons' worth of material to date. Between that and them not releasing the last three Marvel animated movies on DVD, it could be said that Disney have simply abandoned the traditional home video release model outside of their movies and their most high-profile TV shows. It's quite interesting that, in comparison, Warner have put out the vast majority of their DC productions on home video and continue to do so, clearly implying there's at least some money still generated from them. |
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leafy sea dragon
Posts: 7163 Location: Another Kingdom |
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Well, for The Animatrix, while hit-or-miss, I did quite like some of them (especially "A Detective Story"). But more often than not, an anime adaptation of a western property that isn't classic literature tends to not be very good.
Ah, so they DO exist? I was never part of the Disney Rewards program as I was never an avid buyer of home video, so I hadn't known about it at all.
I'd bet a major reason behind Sony Pictures' acquisition of FUNimation is that it's one of the few companies to be getting an increase in home video sales and Sony wants to know FUNimation's "secrets" to that. |
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Guile
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I prefer the anime adaptions of Powerpuff Girls and Stitch to the American shows. They have better art and an actual story. There's no excuse to have an artstyle as ugly as the original Powerpuff Girls outside laziness |
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LUNI_TUNZ
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The first season of The Muppet Show also featured a lot of cut content, and Disney just kind of stopped after 3. Muppet Family Christmas also features characters now owned by three different companies, so I wonder how much that also plays into Disney not even trying for a new release on that. |
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belvadeer
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Yup, pretty much most of the time.
No offense to your preferences, but Powerpuff Girls Z really didn't have a story at all and neither did Stitch! for that matter. They were both just episodic nonsense that had nothing to do with the original source material whatsoever. Taste in art style is subjective, but looking pretty and wasting episodes doing nothing other than nonstop filler doesn't really excuse poor storytelling, if any at all. The original art for the U.S. Powerpuff Girls is what was iconic about it and you're the first person I've seen to call it "ugly". And it had substance; many of the episodes focused on each of the girls as individuals and as a team. Z didn't do any of that, and just wasted time being silly episode after episode. |
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MoonPhase1
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Warner Brothers puts out many not all of their titles on DVD, but like the Cartoon Network shows, you usually only get like a Season or just DVDs with random episodes. Some Cartoon Network shows can only be found on the Holiday DVDs with like random Cartoon Network Christmas & Halloween episodes but not on its own. Not even a Warner Archives release. |
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Sakagami Tomoyo
Posts: 943 Location: Melbourne, VIC, Australia |
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Might as well be asking if the brickies, sparkies, plumbers and plasterers who worked on your house have part ownership of it. They worked on it, you paid them for it, the resulting product is yours.
Not disagreeing, but I will say that the reverse is true too: every American re-imagining of a Japanese property (and some European ones) I've ever seen badly misses the point about what made them good to begin with. |
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belvadeer
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Also true. It's a two-way street. |
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Sailor Sedna
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I did not know Toei worked on Muppet Babies, back when they actually gave a crap...
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Yunho
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The beginning of this article reminds me that as a child I watched a ton of Baby Looney Tunes, almost every day, but have probably never seen more than a clip of a real Looney Tunes show or movie in my life.
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residentgrigo
Posts: 2526 Location: Germany |
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The huge debt TMS racked up due to Little Nemo is a leading reason why they had to take up contract work in the first place. They apparently came clean after working for a decade and a half for WB, as they are now to expensive to be employed by them anymore.
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fuuma_monou
Posts: 1837 Location: Quezon City, Philippines |
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Yeah. Blu-rays or even remastered DVDs would be awesome. |
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writerpatrick
Posts: 679 Location: Canada |
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Many shows from the 80s and 90s didn't get DVD release because they had been released, at least in part, on VHS. How well the sales of the VHS's did affected the company's decision as to whether to put something on DVD or not. Lately that's been much better as companies have gone back into old catalogues to find things for DVD release. But there are still some shows that have had a VHS release, at least in part, but have never had a full DVD release.
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BadNewsBlues
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I had to go and look this up as I didn't know what it was but Back To Bedrock was apparently a block that consisted of already made Flintstone cartoons.
When Japan puts out crap that's as bad as the Gene Deitch Tom & Jerry Shorts or The Tom & Jerry Comedy show then we'll have a nice cup of coffee as we cringe on how badly they screw up just as bad as us at reimagining IP's.
Yeah PPG artsyle was fine it's just the girl's designs looked way out of place with everyone else's. |
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EricJ2
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Disney didn't want to release big boxsets of their cartoons at first, because they still had their ToonDisney channel (before it became X-D and went insane) to syndicate all their 90's reruns, and didn't want one to spoil the other. When they did give into industry pressure and tried halfheartedly putting out a few first sets, it didn't sell as well as they imagined TV boxsets would after looking at other studios' sales, the whole industry had the same busted dreams, and gave up. Disney never really made that great a stab at what Warner eventually did with their online MOD Archive, but the few Kim Possible, DuckTales, Rescue Rangers and Zorro sets did find a home on Disney Rewards.
(Well, Cartoon Network shoving them off the network, hiding them away on Boomerang, and then literally thinking we'd "forgotten" the characters because we didn't go to see "Looney Tunes: Back in Action", didn't help the current generations any.) While Baby Looney Tunes was simply another example of "Bring in the kid-versions to jumpstart the house franchise" and find new sales-demographic markets, some real old-generation Looney Tunes fans who didn't grow up as kids in the 90's loathed the smug, loud, overbearing Tiny Toons/Animaniacs/Pinky & the Brain era (at least, those who'd already started to discover the early anime movement at the time, and had better cartoon comedies to escape to). Which came from Steven Spielberg thinking he was now the generous expert "guru" on classic cartoons after having put all those legacy cameos in "Who Framed Roger Rabbit", and now got all his industry pals to make "new" cartoons--And basically giving us corny West-coast gags obsessed with Hollywood-town in-jokes, written by TV-sitcom writers, and hyped up with spastic caffeine because, to those still on their late-80's baby-boomer Roger Rabbit high, "all classic cartoon were Tex Avery". Those of us who'd grown up on the real hip-literate Chuck Jones of "Rabbit of Seville", "Duck Amuck" and "Ali Baba Bunny" were not amused. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnR99vYZfP8 Thank me later. (Sorry, but with Warner on their current "All you remember is Space Jam!" kick of hiding them off of Blu-ray, we classic-Looney fans have to stick together if we want to beat some sense back into Warner's poor, vulnerable, neurotic head again.) |
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