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Chiibi
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I only have my memories....but nothing was ever "implied' in Sailor Moon; it was blatant. Same for Utena.
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Stuart Smith
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ChibiKangaroo
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Well it's clearly shown in the show. There have been several episodes showing Ruby and Sapphire embracing, kissing, talking about each other as a couple and Garnet sings a song about how the two parts of her have a relationship that "is stable" and can't be stopped by those who take offense to it. The only reason I brought up the creator confirming it is because some particularly obtuse people try to claim that it doesn't count because they are aliens. And as far as blood and sex, I'm sorry but that's not the standard we are going by here. If it were, then hentai would be the epitome of the art form. Hentai is fine, and some of my earliest exposure to anime was hentai so I have no problems with it, but I'm talking about larger concepts and the problem with anime is its repetitiveness and inability to take risks in how it uses themes and concepts. Hentai suffers from a lot of the same issues, just in a different way. |
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Bargain Hunter
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Disney movies had blood and sexual content? Wow, I clearly was watching the wrong titles. |
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ChibiKangaroo
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Rofl. I don't recall them showing blood. I think Mr. Smith was exaggerating there. Sexual content, there was a little bit but only in like one or two movies max. The Great Mouse Detective's "Miss Kitty Mouse" scene where Basil and Watson go to a strip tease show is probably the best example. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2IctxaCPqw That kind of stuff was really just a sign of the times as the 80s was very experimental in animation. I talked earlier about Don Bluth, I don't think it was a coincidence that The Great Mouse Detective came out after he left Disney and made the darker movies that he was making, such as Secret of Nimh which also featured mice and DID have blood and swearing. P.S. I love that clip though. When the title of the song is "Let Me Be Good To You" and you see an innocent looking girl in frumpy clothes coming onto the stage, you know somethings about to go down |
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Chiibi
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LOL they are mostly minor or subtle but....yeah, they're in there. Blood: Gaston stabs the Beast, Simba scratches Shenzi on the cheek, Ursula gets stabbed by a harpoon, etc. Sexual content: Hunchback of Notre Dame's Frollo lusting after Esmeralda is the biggest one that everyone thinks of....but there's also stuff in Hercules, Tarzan, Lilo and Stitch, etc. When I say "stuff", I'm mostly talking about questionable dialogue....but there's also actions the characters do in a "blink and you'll miss it" subtle way like Frollo sniffing Es's hair or Meg pulling down her dress strap while she's trying to seduce Herc. You won't BELIEVE what goes over your head when you see these movies as a kid. When you rewatch them with an adult mind, you go "WHOA!! Did you just!?" I advise to try it. It's fun.
BEST f*cking 2-D movie from the company; AND THEY JUST IGNORE IT COMPLETELY. Basil is my waifu. |
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Lord Oink
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Nice way to spin it. People point out anime's been doing this stuff for decades and suddenly it's "Oh, you got to use an old show? Jeez, guess the pickings are slim~"
Well... it doesn't. Using stand-ins is one of the oldest censorship techniques. Can't tackle something like racism head on, so you use an alien or monster as an allegory Meanwhile they can talk about racism openly in anime if they want. It's a pretty juvenile way to write something. Championing a show about genderless rocks which never actually confirm anything as the best example of gay characters is a pretty weak example. |
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