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NEWS: Persona 5 English Dub Trailer Features Ryuji Sakamoto

you really don't see many criticizing Japanese voice directors and VA when they say foreign words incorrectly or Engrish at times. Either shrugged or laughed at. Not anger like this.

You miss the point. We should expect better out of both sides.

OK. I'll bite. Want to know why people don't get angry when Japanese butcher English words? Because unlike Americans, Japnese literally don't use two consonates one after another (except "n" sometimes).

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you really don't see many criticizing Japanese voice directors and VA when they say foreign words incorrectly or Engrish at times. Either shrugged or laughed at. Not anger like this.

OK. I'll bite. Want to know why people don't get angry when Japanese butcher English words? Because unlike Americans, Japnese literally don't use two consonates one after another (except "n" sometimes). So Direct Attack has to be split into Di-Re-Cu-To A-Ta-Ku to match how the Japanese VA has talked for his entire life.

What exactly is the excuse of an American VA who can't pronounce Sa-Ku-Ra? They shouold be able to immitate it considering almost every anime watcher can. Answer that.

Why do people get triggered by mispronunciation of Japanese from English speakers, but not by Arabic mispronunciation, Mandarin mispronunciation, French mispronunciation or Spanish mispronunciation?

Japanese is not an official language of anywhere and is spoken widely in one country. None of the languages above are confined or native to one place. We as Americans can't even pronounce "Iraq", "Al Qaeda" or "Muslim" right and no-one bats an eye. Some random language gets "butchered" and everyone loses their mind.

Besides, none of you know anything about linguistics or the like.

That pronunciation is just awful. The acting itself is fine, but as someone who can speak Japanese, that pronunciation hurt.

For those asking why we're getting up in arms about the pronunciation, I'll tell you why. In Japanese, you have 5 vowel sounds that make up the basis of ALL pronunciation in the language, with the exception of "ん" (solid "n" sound). A (ah), I (ee), U (oo), E (eh), and O (oh). That's it. No exceptions. Same rules apply to hiragana and katakana. You see "あ" and it's only pronunciation is "ah". No other. Same goes for every other character.

In this case, the character's name in question is Ryuji Sakamoto. In hiragana, you'd write that like "さかもとりゅうじ" (Sakamoto Ryuuji for those who can't read). That is pronounced as "Sah kah moh toh Ryuu ji", not SahKAHmahtoh as the actor says in the video. Japanese has no room for bending pronunciation, and that's how the actors in Japan all grew up speaking. You're stuck with only the sounds that the kana make.

We have numerous sounds in the English language and multiple ways to pronounce vowels. You only get five in Japanese. Every sound in Japanese is available in the English language, while every sound in English is NOT available in Japanese.

Another reason I'd like to think we're mad is because there's no Japanese voices on the international releases of Persona 5.

Therefore, unless you fork out $82 for the Japanese version, you can't get the Japanese voices and you're stuck with a sub-par dub that could ruin the experience for a lot of people.

But then again, your opinion mean squat. I've checked your posts and you're not even a dub fan; you've openly said you dislike dubs. Besides, you're not from the USA or Canada.

NearEasternerJ1 wrote:

But then again, your opinion mean squat. I've checked your posts and you're not even a dub fan; you've openly said you dislike dubs. Besides, you're not from the USA or Canada.

One of these is not like the others.

There also weren't Japanese voice options on the western releases of Persona 3,4, or the various other SMT games and spin-offs that have voiced dialog. I would think people would be used to this after about 13 years of so.

.....Yeah to a lot petty people who treat any english dub of any Japanese anime or video game as being awful or lesser in comparison to the Japanese version simply by default not because they're legitimately as awful as Megaman X4.

You obviously know nothing about Japanese if you think it's some restricted language with ONE way to pronounce things.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansai_dialect#Phonology

Also, as I said before, Japanese people are more exposed to English than vice versa. You can "claim" that JP speakers have more leeway than English users because of the sounds, but Arabic doesn't possess a "P" and almost every single English speaking Palestinian can say the word "Palestine" without confusing it for an "F". Why are Palestinians better at English than Japanese people?

It doesn't matter. Pronunciation of foreign words is about approximation. Any linguist will tell you that. What do you call Jonathan in Greek? Greek doesn't have Js? Yeah, that's what I thought.

Seriously. I never cared for having Japanese voices in any game. As I've said before, it's a nice bonus, but not a requirement to owning and enjoying the product. If people really do base their purchases on having Japanese voices included, then those folks have basically given the middle finger to over 85% of games released in the U.S.

Yeah, I know the past Persona games all were English-only outside of Japan, but when you see a lot of other games coming out of Japan having dual Japanese and English audio as options, it really makes you wonder why Atlus isn't doing it for Persona 5.

Sony has a seperate "Asia" region outside of Japan. The Asian PSN stores tend to get the exact same stuff as Japan, sometimes with English/Chinese translations as well and it tends to be much cheaper than the Japanese store for whatever reason.