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MFrontier
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Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:35 am
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I will miss David Production nailing this remake and the entire cast, especially Lum.
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njprogfan
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Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:35 pm
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Having never watched the original but knowing of its legend, I went into this with a blank slate and like you thought they nailed it 95% of the time. It always had me laughing at some point and the comedic timing was on point. I loved the madcap energy this series had and unless they put out OVA's or a random movie I'll miss these nutcase characters and especially the voice work of Sumire Uesaka's Lum-cha.
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louis6578
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Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 7:21 pm
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I kind of expect that no matter what this version did better, it would never get the finale as well as the original (which adapted the final arc as the 5th (and only canonical) movie). I think this is the kind of story that was meant for theaters.
Speaking of which. Fun idea that won't ever happen: David Productions can remake the movies of the original with their updated visuals and VAs. At least Beautiful Dreamer maybe? I doubt it, but it'd be fun.
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Swissman
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Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2024 6:10 am
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louis6578 wrote: | Speaking of which. Fun idea that won't ever happen: David Productions can remake the movies of the original with their updated visuals and VAs. At least Beautiful Dreamer maybe? I doubt it, but it'd be fun. |
Ugh, please no. The original movies' visuals are good enough, especially movie 3 with Yûji Moriyama as animation director and Beautiful Dreamer. As much as I like the modern designs of the reboot and the colorful visuals, I can't imagine them to work for retelling the old movies (except Only you, maybe).
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Covnam
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Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:17 am
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Never got around to watching the original, so I went in to this blind and enjoyed it. I thought the series was pretty funny overall, though this last season was the weakest.
The relationship between the leads didn't really work for me though. Perhaps the build up was done better in the manga (I read that about a third of the chapters weren't adapted), but Lum tirelessly pursuing someone who wasn't interested in her (until late in this adaptation when he suddenly shows some interest/jealousy) and attacking him over it wore thin as the series went on.
Maybe this series is really about how negative reinforcement can be effective?
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Dayraven
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Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 3:53 am
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There isn’t all that much buildup in the manga — it’s more of a switch from the earliest chapters portraying Ataru as an ordinary guy with Lum as an unsympathetic pursuer (and Shinobu as Ataru’s girlfriend), to a more sympathetic Lum as Ataru becomes the world’s worst skirt-chaser. The new dynamic’s fairly set once Shinobu breaks up with Ataru.
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Beatdigga
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Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 5:42 am
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Dayraven wrote: | There isn’t all that much buildup in the manga — it’s more of a switch from the earliest chapters portraying Ataru as an ordinary guy with Lum as an unsympathetic pursuer (and Shinobu as Ataru’s girlfriend), to a more sympathetic Lum as Ataru becomes the world’s worst skirt-chaser. The new dynamic’s fairly set once Shinobu breaks up with Ataru. |
I think there's a reason Beautiful Dreamer and the anime film version of the Final Chapter emerged from that, namely that everyone was frustrated with that status quo. Not sure if, with the shortened length, a remake of the former has the same impact.
Also it seems that the revamped ending keeps the same general beats, but cuts out the frustration of everyone around Ataru for refusing to commit either way. The manga ends with Ataru swearing he will never say he loves Lum out loud while getting pelted with trash, the movie ends with the town straight up sick of both their crap and prepared to lynch Ataru.
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Swissman
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Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 7:35 am
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Beatdigga wrote: |
Also it seems that the revamped ending keeps the same general beats, but cuts out the frustration of everyone around Ataru for refusing to commit either way. The manga ends with Ataru swearing he will never say he loves Lum out loud while getting pelted with trash, the movie ends with the town straight up sick of both their crap and prepared to lynch Ataru. |
He actually says he'll only tell her on his deathbed, meaning it's okay for Lum to chase him until the end of his life. What a twisted way of expressing his love and affection towards her.
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Amritzer
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Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 7:55 am
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Swissman wrote: |
Ugh, please no. The original movies' visuals are good enough. |
Maybe for you.
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Swissman
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Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2024 9:44 am
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Amritzer wrote: |
Swissman wrote: |
Ugh, please no. The original movies' visuals are good enough. |
Maybe for you. |
Looks like you don't agree. Can you expand further?
I've been a fan of the original movies since the mid nineties and I'm fine with them. I don't remember anyone back then complaining about the visuals. The reboot visuals are fine, but I don't see them matching the movies which had a darker atmosphere, like Lum the forever.
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