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NEWS: Kodomo no Jikan Kickstarter Meets Goal


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Galap
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:29 am Reply with quote
Removed the Quote Pyramids of Giza there. Read our rules for overquoting for next time please.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:42 am Reply with quote
IZFSLE wrote:
Good for them. I was blown away by the series. Hopefully these comments don't get too rowdy, though.


not possible considering what series this is here. kinda lost hope after seven seas more or less buckled under the pressure from nay sayers claiming their condoning lolicon porn or some crap like that and turned chicken feet from the series completely.

though i am kinda surprised that digital manga still sort this out through the end considering that those same naysayers more or less succeeded from allowing their ero sister company project H to start the release of Boku no Pico to the US before it even started.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 1:57 am Reply with quote
jr240483 wrote:
IZFSLE wrote:
Good for them. I was blown away by the series. Hopefully these comments don't get too rowdy, though.


not possible considering what series this is here. kinda lost hope after seven seas more or less buckled under the pressure from nay sayers claiming their condoning lolicon porn or some crap like that and turned chicken feet from the series completely.

though i am kinda surprised that digital manga still sort this out through the end considering that those same naysayers more or less succeeded from allowing their ero sister company project H to start the release of Boku no Pico to the US before it even started.


they were planning to publish Boku no Pico!?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:37 am Reply with quote
Holo Wolfgod wrote:
the social justice warriors and soccer moms will lose it...
like they ever learn to read anything anyway...
and of course these morons will inevitably care more about sound bites than the manga's actual content...

edit: why can't I use S, J and W for socialjusticewarrior?!?!


The term is filtered because, to use your words, people using those labels to describe other individuals are 'caring more about sound bites' than the individual merits of what the person is saying. It's started too many arguments in the past.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:06 am Reply with quote
Hahahah, that's weird that the news article doesn't even have a link to the Kickstarter project page, and yet the news article has a link to itself Laughing

Article URL: animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-07-03/kodomo-no-jikan-kickstarter-meets-goal/.103921

Article looping link to itself: "PeCChi imprint's Kickstarter campaign"

(Why are ya linking to yourself?)

Here's the Kickstarter project link BTW:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/digitalmanga/kodomo-no-jikan-a-childs-time

(It only has some 800 backers though. As comparison, commercially successful manga tend to sell in the thousands.)


Anyways, as I mentioned here before, lots of things changed since a decade ago:

  • Loli stuff gotten more pervy, so the shock factor has died down

  • Mainstream taboos being broken (multiplexes no problem screening Fifty Shades of Grey)

  • Retail shops aren't the gatekeepers they once were when they wouldn't had stocked Nymphet


And that last one is the big one - that's what stopped the previous release a decade ago. It's because they were afraid bookstores would not stock the manga in the first place because bookstores are afraid of being associated with any possible bad controversies. And if bookstores wouldn't stock it, not many people could buy it, and that's a death knell for a manga back then. But nowadays, a lot of people don't buy at bookstores anymore - people are comfortable ordering on the internet.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:21 am Reply with quote
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You would have to remove any of the context provided by the story to make it into a sexual act.

While the characters were given non-sexual motivations to make that scene happen, one would need to wear twin rose-coloured telescopes to think it wasn't written and portrayed that way principally to be titillating to the reader.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 6:52 am Reply with quote
I think the US title of "Nymphet" was probably what harmed the title most a decade ago as that, plus Rin on the cover, would be enough to infuriate many people. I still wonder why that title was chosen.

I'd like to hope that this will mean that Watashiya's latest work will also be released in the US. She's been a trooper throughout this campaign, increasing the offered sketches from 4 to 7 to 19.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:04 am Reply with quote
Glad to hear that they made it Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:34 am Reply with quote
jymmy wrote:
Ringking wrote:
You would have to remove any of the context provided by the story to make it into a sexual act.

While the characters were given non-sexual motivations to make that scene happen, one would need to wear twin rose-coloured telescopes to think it wasn't written and portrayed that way principally to be titillating to the reader.


Indeed, but that's largely irrelevant. whether the intent was for it to be sexually stimulating for the reader or not doesn't make it a sexual act within the story.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:44 am Reply with quote
Which is equally irrelevant to the question of whether or not the manga depicted a sexual act, which it did. It just gave the characters motivation to carry it out other than "Hey baby, wanna let me suck on your tits? I think we'd both enjoy it."
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Cutiebunny wrote:
I think the US title of "Nymphet" was probably what harmed the title most a decade ago as that, plus Rin on the cover, would be enough to infuriate many people. I still wonder why that title was chosen.


If memory serves me right Seven Seas didn't want to use "Kodomo no Jikan" because there was a hentai property of the same name they didn't want it confused with. A translation wasn't an option for some reason too. So they proposed a name change with like "Chibi" something in the title because there was another popular series with that in the title in the U.S. and hoped people might look at KnJ that way, or something like that. So they asked for approval and had their graphic designer make up a logo/cover however, Watashiya said no and replied "Nymphet". Which Seven Seas had concerns over that title but Watashiya was firm apparently at that time. So they followed her wishes.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:45 am Reply with quote
Cutiebunny wrote:
I'd like to hope that this will mean that Watashiya's latest work will also be released in the US. She's been a trooper throughout this campaign, increasing the offered sketches from 4 to 7 to 19.


Joou-sama no Eshi isn't as good as KnJ, but it has its good points, especially when Sensei starts becoming a prominent character. I would buy it.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:57 am Reply with quote
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Which is equally irrelevant to the question of whether or not the manga depicted a sexual act, which it did. It just gave the characters motivation to carry it out other than "Hey baby, wanna let me suck on your tits? I think we'd both enjoy it."


You and I clearly have different definitions of what constitutes a sexual act then. To my mind, for an act to be sexual it requires a mental component of sexual intent and well the physical act. Regardless of whether the action itself would typically be considered a sexual act if provided in the absence of context, the question of whether an act is or is not sexual within the narrative comes down to the intent with which the act was performed.

Nobody would argue, of course, that the intent of the imagery was to provide sexual gratification through the provision of a scenario which, taken without content, would carry sexual connotations and therefore may still incite arousal. However, within the story neither spoiler[Rin nor Mimi] would consider themselves to have engaged in sexual activity or to have done so for sexual purposes. Ergo, the act was not sexual within the narrative.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 10:35 am Reply with quote
It's also a scene that is truly meant to evoke sadness and pity which is juxtaposed with the perception of the scene as a sexual act. One of the many instances that make this manga fascinating to me.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 2:49 pm Reply with quote
Well, I am more fascinated by that scene alone.

I also heard that in the manga, there is more explicit loli yuri scenes.

But I'm pretty sure that isn't true.
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