Forum - View topicNEWS: No Grand Prize Winners, Honorable Mentions Announced for 7th Kyoto Animation Awards
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Zin5ki
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Everybody loses! Strictly speaking, we can at least say that all applicants were equal in their victories, null though they may have been.
If major sporting events such as the World Cup were liable to nihilistic anticlimaxes like this, I foresee that I would find them all the more entertaining. |
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Angel M Cazares
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And of course not many awards from Kyoto Animation and their scam to acquire material on the cheap, and then potentially make a lot of money with anime productions.
Yes, I am speculating and characterizing KyoAni as scoundrels, but what is the point of having this "contest". It will be more honest for KyoAni to simply say, "if you have a cool idea to turn into an anime, let us buy it from you". |
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kiminobokuwa
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If they keep this up for another year then they should avoid not having another contest. I mean, if they can't decide on who to award or won't even give out smaller awards then why waste their time on this any longer?
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Kougeru
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better than giving everyone an award lol
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crx07
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@angelmcazares Scam? That's a bad word. I just don't get why people hate KyoAni awards. This is not a scam obviously. Japan is strict on intellectual properties, especially against intellectual dishonesty, so don't expect smart companies to steal ideas from writers because they will be surely sued if they do that. No idiots want their name to be stained.
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nemuyoake
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So, there is no new talent in script writing etc. in Japan?
Or rather, no new talent wants to participate in this contest? |
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Ali07
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Don't think they were saying that KyoAni would steal ideas. What they seemed to be eluding to is the potential that KyoAni would pay less to have the rights to make an anime based on someone's work, if that someone didn't win the grand prize, when compared to a grand prize winner. |
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CrowLia
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If the latter, I wouldn't be surprised. I mean, given the contest's track record, it's a wonder people still submit their stuff, like the article says there has only been one grand prize winner in the seven years that the contest has been held. Who would bother submitting their work to a contest where nobody ever wins? It is of course entirely plausible that all the submissions received were utter garbage, but I really have to question the need to even hold the contest when it's clear no one's "good enough" for KyoAni's standards |
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walw6pK4Alo
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Indeed, utter garbage scripts, none worthy of a prize, but certainly worthy of turning into an expensive animated production, one that can easily cost upward $150,000 per episode. I think I asked last year, is this common with contests in Japan, or does KyoAni stand unique?
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Dab1za9
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The previous works that received honorable mention and was published were all meh.stuff like Phantom World, Kyōkai no Kanata and Chū-2 aren't exactly well written stuff so i would say they aren't receiving good submissions. I think people who are confident in their writing ability would go to something like Kodansha instead of Kyoani since the former is much bigger. |
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Hoppy800
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Anime is dying, confirmed. If there is no new, fresh, talent getting awards and praise (thus being able to have their anime adapted and offered a job at a studio) then anime is heading into a dark age.
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Keichitsu0305
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I'm utterly confused.
If the primary reason for animation companies or productions is to create "advertisement" for existing IPs such as light novels or manga, why create an anime based of a poorly written awardless light novel when you can hire an established screenwriter to create a new property and retain the rights for yourself? I'm sure other companies associated with Aniplex can get away with one or two duds but KyoAni only make 2-3 animated projects per year. Why spend time making mediocre stuff like Myriad Phantom when they could either adapt solid award winning material like the upcoming Silent Voice or start being more critical on how they acquire new material. The problem for me isn't how shady these awards are (which they are); it's that KyoAni are still wasting time on this method of acquiring new material. |
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CrowLia
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That's kind of the point, the contest is basically a joke and a waste of time for everyone involved: all the submissions are garbage so no one gets the prize, and anyone who might be talented and willing would be naturally discouraged from submitting since no one ever gets the prize. It's a vicious cycle, the fact that this year there wasn't even a honorable mention or anything of the sort would indicate that the submissions are just getting worse each year. Which begs the question, if the submissions are so bad, why are they making them into super high-budget anime? I imagine this started as a way for KyoAni to get "cool" ideas for their new anime series (the means seems rather shady given the track record though), but it doesn't look like it's paying off for either the studio or the people who submit their works either.
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ultimatemegax
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There's many other contests that have the "there may be conditions where no awards are given" disclaimer, but those tend not to be covered in English media. Apparently these submissions are thought to be either "God's gift to mankind" or "utter complete garbage." There can't be a middle ground of "not written well enough to deserve a grand prize or even honorable mention, but there's a lot of potential if the author re-writes this." Shockingly that's how scientific articles get published. We submit to a journal, get reviewed, then adjust based on comments and re-submit the revised version for publication. A similar process happens here. Honestly, considering I'm one of the few people who've actually read a fair amount of the published novels, they don't deserve to be a "grand prize" winner except the one that won. There's good ideas (which happen to be the ones that get adapted and..... send royalties to the author) but the writing leaves more to be desired. On the other hand, it's more preferable to be picky instead of having to award something subpar (I remember reading people whining about how a certain manga didn't deserve an award just this very week). |
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TarsTarkas
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If they have only awarded the big award only one time in seven years, then they just might as well stop this contest. If serious artists who actually spend the time and money to make a great package feel that they will never win, they will not waste their time.
Now the contest just feels like a scam, used to find new talent and ideas, rather than an award contest. |
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