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Lady Sango
Joined: 28 Oct 2003
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Location: Texas
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 5:41 pm
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I know some parts of anime need to be edited, but companies and networks will go to far with edits. One of the reasons is that parents might complain about a show not being right for their children. I remember reading that some other member of this forum saying when a kid under the age of 14 wanted to buy an Inuyasha book, he or she told that child's parent about Inuyasha's content and the parent still bought the book. Are some anime edits used to help children or their parents who might be too lazy to monitor what their children watch?
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ChichiriMuyo
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 6:07 pm
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You've never heard of kids going behind their parents backs and doing what they want to regardless of what the parents say? Children can't be watched 24/7, and they will try to get away with things. The rules are to help prevent that.
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SharinganKakashi
Joined: 07 Dec 2003
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 6:12 pm
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If a child or anyone really wants something, theres not much you can to do stop them. They can lie about the entire story and the content, and their parents will let them have it and be none the wiser. Companies edit DVDs so that parents who are protective of their children can just buy the editted version, and not worry about whats on it, in my opinion.
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Swordfish_II
Joined: 05 Nov 2003
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 6:12 pm
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That's why TVs have V-chips in them.
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trigunner
Joined: 28 Sep 2003
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 6:22 pm
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also it could be argued that some company's edit them so they can put them on in certain time slots.
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Klipso
Joined: 26 Nov 2003
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 7:24 pm
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The more rules you set, the easyer it is to get around them... just like american justice
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Tenchi
Joined: 03 Jan 2002
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Location: Ottawa... now I'm an ex-Anglo Montrealer.
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 8:16 pm
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Because the nature of the children's television market, and television in general on non-speciality channels not directly supported by viewers, is to get the largest audience possible for any given time slot, while, at the same time, pissing off as few people as possible, since the ultimate goal is to keep their advertisers happy. If a large enough portion of parents are possibly going to be offended by certain things on a foreign-animated cartoon show, for sex, violence, or "occult"-related reasons, it will be changed for the American market. You might find a lot of the specific objections silly, but it's fairly pointless and futile to tell parents not to be offended by something. And companies like DiC, Saban, or 4Kids have a good a priori knowledge of what likely will offend parents, so they edit their shows accordingly, with full approval of the Japanese licensors, whom, for the most part, don't give a "whit" about the artistic integrity of the shows they sell to American syndicators; they just want a piece of the pie in the world's most lucrative children's television market.
As for the elimination of Japanese culture-specific content which wouldn't be considered particularly offensive in and of itself... well, it's done to make a show accessible for their target audience, young children.
Of course, edits to anime aired on television during the kiddy TV hours aren't exactly embraced by the anime fandom niche, but that's much, much smaller than the audience they want watching things like Yu-Gi-Oh. Really, anime fans can object to edits on kiddy TV until the cows come home, but it's fairly futile. All anime fans can do is buy the legitimate subtitled, intact versions when they become available, if they become available, but, for things like Pokémon, the potential audience for a subtitled, intact version is just too small for them to bother putting one out.
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trigunner
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 8:31 pm
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I think you just hit the nail on the head.
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gnollman
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 9:49 pm
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I dunno... Pioneer released Card Captor Sakura...
That was probably driven by the realization of how bad Cardcaptors sucks, though...
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Fenrir
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 9:58 pm
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Card Captor Sakura was also a fan favorite anime. It had been gaining recognition among Fandom for a long time and it was popular. Not putting out Card Captor Sakura would have been retarded. Your also talking about Poineer here they have the cash to do that type of stuff and know the market very well. Also they would have been kicking themselves had they not considering how badly CCS out sold Card Captors.
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Tenchi
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 10:10 pm
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gnollman wrote: | I dunno... Pioneer released Card Captor Sakura...
That was probably driven by the realization of how bad Cardcaptors sucks, though... |
The subtitled Cardcaptor Sakura was planned before Cardcaptors started airing.
The failure of Cardcaptors as a viable kiddy "brand" actually has nothing to do with anything Cardcaptor Sakura fans said or did nor does it have anything to do with the existence of the subtitled version. It just never got that much of a following completely independently of what the CCS purists thought of it.
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Emerje
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 10:14 pm
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gnollman wrote: | That was probably driven by the realization of how bad Cardcaptors sucks, though... |
I guess you could see it that way, but keep in mind that
a) Cardcaptor Sakura has a slightly higher age demographic indended for it (but not much)
b) Had a relativly large preestablished fanbase.
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c) In the end it's still a Nelvana release, they only alowed Pioneer to do it, but they could have just as easily have said no as they did yes.
Emerje
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hellsing
Joined: 19 Oct 2003
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2003 12:40 pm
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Swordfish_II wrote: | That's why TVs have V-chips in them. |
woah what are v-chips?
Is it like a control with a password to moniter the content in a film that is being shown to someone so they dont accedentaly watch some mature rated film?
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Swordfish_II
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2003 12:48 pm
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hellsing wrote: |
Swordfish_II wrote: | That's why TVs have V-chips in them. |
woah what are v-chips?
Is it like a control with a password to moniter the content in a film that is being shown to someone so they don't accedentaly watch some mature rated film? |
Yes, they are. As of 1999, I believe, all TVs 13+ inches are required to have one. You program them to block out content based on the TV rating system. For instance, if you do not want you children watching anything TV-14 and higher, you program it to block programs rated TV-14 and TV-MA. If you don't want children watching anything with sexual content, you can choose to block every show with an "S" in the rating descrpitor. The only way to turn the chip off is to enter a four-digit code.
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frostedsaiyan
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2003 6:03 pm
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They edit anime to make it suitable for certain ages.
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