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Utsuro no Hako
Joined: 18 May 2012
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 12:36 pm
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This series feels like the author wants to be Jun Maeda but lacks all subtlety. (And considering Jun Maeda's idea of subtlety involves smacking you over the head with a halibut and shouting, "This is sad! Cry dammit!" that's really saying a lot.)
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Tensai GinAce
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 2:38 pm
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If you want a better Piano manga, which is practically the base for most of those new music themed manga
go read "Piano no Mori", you can watch the movie first if you want to get into it,it's one of the best !
(i still like Your Lie in April tho)
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rizuchan
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 2:54 pm
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I'm watching the anime version right now and I'm glad I'm not the only one that sees the problem with Kaori's insistence on Kousei playing the piano. On the one hand, I really like Kaori as a character, and the idea of her making Kousei enjoy playing the piano and use it as a creative outlet for his grief is a sweet story.
On the other hand, I can somewhat personally relate to Kousei. I have some emotional reasons that I gave up playing the flute, and giving up playing may have been one of the healthiest things I ever did for myself. And my reasons weren't anywhere as dramatic as "my mother beat me if I wasn't perfect". So given Kousei's past, maybe a better story would have been for him to find a life for himself that doesn't involve the piano.
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Lemonchest
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 3:14 pm
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My experience of the anime can be summed up as being like watching someone kick a puppy & them not understanding why you'd be angry with them for doing so, since making you feel sad for the puppy was what they were trying to do. I also found the faces weird, although I was thinking they looked more reptilian than amphibian.
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Angel M Cazares
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 6:18 pm
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From the content in this first volume of the Your Lie in April manga, this was adapted into the first 3 or 4 episodes of the anime. If the content in both the manga and anime is the same, be a bit patient. The story began getting good around episode 6 of the anime.
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Ali07
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 10:47 pm
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angelmcazares wrote: | From the content in this first volume of the Your Lie in April manga, this was adapted into the first 3 or 4 episodes of the anime. If the content in both the manga and anime is the same, be a bit patient. |
Really? I've not read the manga, and it seems like it's start isn't that different than the anime, but I could only sit through 5 episodes of the anime.
I felt like I was getting hit over the head during those episodes. "She will die, he will play the piano again, and you will like it" That's how I felt after I sat through the first 5 episodes.
I did laugh when the reviewer mentioned the froggish faces. That's exactly what I thought I was looking at when watching the anime. Especially when they'd close up on A character's face.
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Tsukiumi
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 12:22 am
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Ali07 wrote: |
I felt like I was getting hit over the head during those episodes. "She will die, he will play the piano again, and you will like it" That's how I felt after I sat through the first 5 episodes.
I did laugh when the reviewer mentioned the froggish faces. That's exactly what I thought I was looking at when watching the anime. |
GRATZ you thought the obviously! How could that happen ?!? Are you a God?!
*facepalm* Everyone starts an Anime and after the First Episode, he has in mind how it will End. But it doesnt matter... Important is the Time between.
and Utsuro no Hako, sry but Clannad is crap... never seen such a bad Character like Nagisa...
No need to call a review "shit." The first rule of the forum is to be polite. If you disagree with the review, please provide reasons why. --willag
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magvis
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 12:00 pm
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Tensai GinAce wrote: | If you want a better Piano manga, which is practically the base for most of those new music themed manga
go read "Piano no Mori", you can watch the movie first if you want to get into it,it's one of the best !
(i still like Your Lie in April tho) |
Frankly I think that everyone is missing, well, just about everything. Critics criticize, that's their job, but being a critic doesn't make one omniscient, they just think that they are.
This manga is one of the better one to come out in the past few years, and Kaori's actions in the beginning make perfect sense once you get later on in the story.
If you use the excuse, "well it wasn't apparent in the beginning", well, welcome to good writing.
What I'm seeing from some of the people here is very like those who pass judgement on a book after reading the first five pages, or a movie after watching only the first five minutes.
Personally, I'd like to see the ratings section (for anime and such) require someone to have seen ALL of a series, or more detailed (probably hard to program though) to the point where the ratings are separated into groups based on how many episodes someone watched.
That being said, I think Piano no Mori was incredibly boring. (LOL)
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Princess_Irene
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 1:41 pm
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magvis wrote: | Critics criticize, that's their job, but being a critic doesn't make one omniscient, they just think that they are. |
I don't think I'm omniscient; as a critic, this is simply my evaluation of the first volume of the manga, discounting any anime thoughts I may have as they aren't relevant. I have no doubt that the story changes as the series goes on, but as the title of the review says, I'm just evaluating the one book.
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CrowLia
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 2:13 pm
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks Kaori's treatment of Kousei is terrible and that it's a serious writing issue. Slapstick comedy is common in anime and manga, but Kaori hitting Kousei over and over when he doesn't follow her whims for the sake of comedy feels distasteful when we know his mother heavily abused him. The author trying to force this comedy aspect in spite of the main character's story is one of the huge writing flaws in the series, imho
magvis wrote: |
This manga is one of the better one to come out in the past few years, and Kaori's actions in the beginning make perfect sense once you get later on in the story.
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Without going into any details about this, I'll say I have to disagree. Yes, her circumstances may make her more sympathetic, but in the end she's just selfishly using him to achieve her dream
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Tsukiumi
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 5:01 pm
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Yeah, she make her own dream comes true and at the same time she helps Kousei to play the Piano again.
Personally i think Kaori is one of the best Characters.
Wished for another End or 2nd Season.
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meruru
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 6:48 pm
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Disclaimer that I've only watched the anime, but from the review, it sounds like it follows pretty closely, though in the anime at least, it seemed to me that he froze up not because of grief, nor because he no longer wanted to play, but because he experienced a dissociative flashback. Whether it was actually supposed to be that or not, I guess is up to personal interpretation, but I think you can at least make a pretty solid argument. I understand Kaori hitting him was supposed to be comedic exaggeration, but given that he was abused, and possibly showing symptoms of PTSD, it made me kind of question it too.
Not to mention the way it ends, where his experience with Kaori ends up having some parallels to his relationship with his mom (especially if you view the comedic violence in a less favorable way), where she gets him to play again, and then also dies. I guess the manga author was going for cathartic, but I don't see how that wouldn't end up making a person even worse off.
But despite all that though, I still thought it was good, if flawed. It kind of makes me wonder what the manga author was thinking, if they at all realized it's not that far fetched to have such a dark interpretation.
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Ali07
Joined: 01 Jun 2014
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 6:57 pm
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Tsukiumi wrote: | GRATZ you thought the obviously! How could that happen ?!? Are you a God?!
*facepalm* Everyone starts an Anime and after the First Episode, he has in mind how it will End. But it doesnt matter... Important is the Time between. |
You know what the sad part is, after 5 episodes, the show did not make me want to watch "the time between".
And that is the issue, which was staring you in the face...but you chose to focus on the fact that I didn't like where the show was going to go and how it'd end.
But, I guess I should've spelled it out. Since I had an idea where it would all end up, I had no incentive to follow the journey, as I did not like the characters. Especially Kaori.
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Utsuro no Hako
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 10:07 pm
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magvis wrote: | This manga is one of the better one to come out in the past few years, |
Opinions, they do vary. I consider it a diverting melodrama, but it doesn't come close to top-tier series like A Bride's Story, Umimachi Diary, Goodnight Punpun or Hi-Score Girl.
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JWagnesh8
Joined: 27 Sep 2015
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 10:34 pm
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Indeed. It was a terrifying anime for me to watch.
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