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Kadmos1
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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:20 am
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Trying to argue with penguintruth on various things isn't easy.
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Haterater
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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:39 am
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Quote: | Sadly, I think I remember someone from Toonami. Mentioning that action shows are the only thing people watch. |
Shin-chan would have been perfect to bridge action going into comedy line-up. Wish that comedy anime like Shin-chan showed up for Adult Swim comedy side instead of the action one because it would have fit better with the comedies surrounding it.
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ARC-1300
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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:06 am
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deadman wonderland was terrible shite anyway,with its source material,not being any better. Though i don't think AOT warranted another rerun so soon. its a good show and all but...
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firedragon54738
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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:16 am
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I wonder if there going to start from where they left off or the begining again
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bs3311
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Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:38 am
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Kadmos1 wrote: | Trying to argue with penguintruth on various things isn't easy. |
Of course, just like me . I agree with him though.
SquidmembeRistu wrote: | I really don't know what to say to you other than 'no'. |
Because you can't come up with a reason why it isn't as shallow and less fun as Deadman Wonderland. Even with its dub.
Quote: | You're basically saying that a show with ton of gore can't have a mature storyline but that's just so wrong on so many levels. |
A. He did'nt say any of that even if you try and paraphrase.
1. AOT has bait and switch storytelling with slow pacing.
2. Its not breaking the boundary of Shonnen gore when its pretending to be a Seinen.
3. Drama that doesn't develop the characters, only advance the plot and reiterate things again and again. At least Parasyte changes the dialouge up.
4. World building that tries to squish out as much juice as they can on a city inside the walls when there is still more interset outside them.
5. Main cast of characters being 2 dimensional or below besides Armin. And having your 3 dimensional characters like Jean, Hange and Erwin as secondary. Its basically the power fantasy formula to SAO and every action movie to have your main hero and heroine be bland as possible for the viewers to put them in their skin. Yes, Mikasa is a tool and a kudere pandering massocist otaku wet dream while Annie is a card-board cut ouy with blood shot high eyes. None are, "Strong independant women." Ange is a better female protagonist.
6. I disagree with Penguin on this, but it tries to bait that the show is trying to be more than a Carnage shonnen. Just with Annie having flashbacks foreshadows that, yet whats to feel sorry about? Nothing.
I read Gigantomakhia and found more interest in its aspects, story, characters and action than AOT. Which are basically similar materials besides 1 or 2 things which AOT lacks, small but stong characters and fast yet consistent pace that does'nt bait anything.
Better yet, just go watch/read Berserk for its maturity while having gore. I just watch AOT with a bunch of friends and enjoy the action and nothing else. Its popcorn entertainment and I'll watch it as such.
B. Deadman Wonderland on the other hand.
1. Reminds viewers of Batman Arkuyam City. Already something reletable.
2. Has gore galore.
3. Insane characters that fit gore galore
4. Fun yet respectable dub
Yeah, AOT had little to no fun with it. Respect is tossed in the dirt with them changing the script to make vastly different characters into relatable idiots or have intolerable script reads that make the writers sound like spoiled kids who want an ADR oscar.
When I heard the titans fight in the sub, their pitch and sound brought amazement and fear. Dub? Cockfighting! Just the sound of terrible edited audio to make them sound high pitch as possible to sound like screeching hens/roosters in a pit when they should be the biggest brutes as possible.
You know, a 90's dub had this same task to try and perfect. And suceeded. Does the community know what that was? Neon Genesis Evangelion. When the robots went berserk, they were amazing to hear but terrifying at the same time. Same with the Rebuild movies despite them sounding more high pitch and bird like, but very good try. Keep on shininng Matt!
Deadman has the best and funniest out of Greg Ayres while all of Funimations female actresses who sound like there trying not to be on, "Their time of the Month." Here they all embrace that they are on them. Jessica Boone will be proud. Plus the script is as insane as Panty and Stocking.
sim0n2170 wrote: | Haters gonna hate |
And spoonfed viewers will continue to be spoonfed.
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MarshalBanana
Joined: 31 Aug 2014
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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:03 pm
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bs3311 wrote: |
A. He did'nt say any of that even if you try and paraphrase.
1. AOT has bait and switch storytelling with slow pacing.
2. Its not breaking the boundary of Shonnen gore when its pretending to be a Seinen.
3. Drama that doesn't develop the characters, only advance the plot and reiterate things again and again. At least Parasyte changes the dialouge up.
4. World building that tries to squish out as much juice as they can on a city inside the walls when there is still more interset outside them.
5. Main cast of characters being 2 dimensional or below besides Armin. And having your 3 dimensional characters like Jean, Hange and Erwin as secondary. Its basically the power fantasy formula to SAO and every action movie to have your main hero and heroine be bland as possible for the viewers to put them in their skin. Yes, Mikasa is a tool and a kudere pandering massocist otaku wet dream while Annie is a card-board cut ouy with blood shot high eyes. None are, "Strong independant women." Ange is a better female protagonist.
6. I disagree with Penguin on this, but it tries to bait that the show is trying to be more than a Carnage shonnen. Just with Annie having flashbacks foreshadows that, yet whats to feel sorry about? Nothing.
I read Gigantomakhia and found more interest in its aspects, story, characters and action than AOT. Which are basically similar materials besides 1 or 2 things which AOT lacks, small but stong characters and fast yet consistent pace that does'nt bait anything.
Better yet, just go watch/read Berserk for its maturity while having gore. I just watch AOT with a bunch of friends and enjoy the action and nothing else. Its popcorn entertainment and I'll watch it as such.
B. Deadman Wonderland on the other hand.
1. Reminds viewers of Batman Arkuyam City. Already something reletable.
2. Has gore galore.
3. Insane characters that fit gore galore
4. Fun yet respectable dub
Yeah, AOT had little to no fun with it. Respect is tossed in the dirt with them changing the script to make vastly different characters into relatable idiots or have intolerable script reads that make the writers sound like spoiled kids who want an ADR oscar.
When I heard the titans fight in the sub, their pitch and sound brought amazement and fear. Dub? Cockfighting! Just the sound of terrible edited audio to make them sound high pitch as possible to sound like screeching hens/roosters in a pit when they should be the biggest brutes as possible.
You know, a 90's dub had this same task to try and perfect. And suceeded. Does the community know what that was? Neon Genesis Evangelion. When the robots went berserk, they were amazing to hear but terrifying at the same time. Same with the Rebuild movies despite them sounding more high pitch and bird like, but very good try. Keep on shininng Matt!
Deadman has the best and funniest out of Greg Ayres while all of Funimations female actresses who sound like there trying not to be on, "Their time of the Month." Here they all embrace that they are on them. Jessica Boone will be proud. Plus the script is as insane as Panty and Stocking. |
Why not go write a review, there is not need for a 548 word essay on why you don't like it on a forum. Most people are not going to read all of it anyway.
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SEGAtheGENESIS234
Joined: 19 Jan 2015
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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:04 pm
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Guess the people at Toonami think that people just CAN'T get enough of AoT.
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PurpleWarrior13
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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:16 pm
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StrawHat313 wrote: |
TnKtRk wrote: | If they're going to use the 3am slot for reruns, they should use it to air shows that haven't been on for some time like Deadman: Cashern Sins, Samurai 7, or Shin-chan.
Or use the slot for comedies to help ease into AS early morning comedies: Sgt. Frog, P&S...
Unconventional is the key. |
I'd love if they got the rights for Shin Chan back, and aired it again. It was very funny, and I even got the DVD's when they came out. Since I enjoyed the English dub so much.
You are right, the block could use a comedy show instead of so much action. Sadly, I think I remember someone from Toonami. Mentioning that action shows are the only thing people watch. |
Jason DeMarco has said repeatedly that Toonami is an action block first and foremost, not a strictly anime block, which is why action American cartoons have also appeared. Shin Chan and Sgt. Frog (as much as I love the latter) would be no more fitting than Spongebob.
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jojothepunisher
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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:34 pm
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I enjoyed Attack on Titan. It was the one of the best show to be produced in a real long time.
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AbZeroNow
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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:34 pm
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firedragon54738 wrote: | I wonder if there going to start from where they left off or the begining again |
On twitter, DeMarco said from the beginning.
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TnKtRk
Joined: 17 Mar 2011
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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:55 pm
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All that AoT hate.
That's why AoT's getting a second seasond and Deadman...hmm, let's see...still waiting...
The
Audience
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Spoken.
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VPedge
Joined: 11 Oct 2012
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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 4:10 pm
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TnKtRk wrote: | All that AoT hate.
That's why AoT's getting a second seasond and Deadman...hmm, let's see...still waiting...
The
Audience
Has
Spoken.
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Hahahahahah that's a cute joke.
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Ambimunch
Joined: 30 Aug 2012
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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 4:12 pm
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Cable TV is for peasants -- you will be forever stuck with re-runs
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the-antihero
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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 4:32 pm
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Oh great, 1 more year of this crap till the 2nd season, give or take. I like AoT and all but this is just too much, shoving it in our faces, and the same story arc nonetheless.
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Gasero
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Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 4:40 pm
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the-antihero wrote: | Oh great, 1 more year of this crap till the 2nd season, give or take. I like AoT and all but this is just too much, shoving it in our faces, and the same story arc nonetheless. |
I'm confident that you don't have the watch Attack on Titan just because Toonami is airing it.
I also love the extensive debates about which show is better. HINT: It's like...your opinion man.
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