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Sobe
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 It is (funny, that is), and completely ironic seeing as how much the rest of the world balks at the amount of skin shown on covers of magazines in family stores in our own country. This is the same exact place where toddlers and elementary school children walk around with their parents. WalMart, Target, Best Buy (who even goes there anymore? LOL); all of it is just funny stuff.
And people say this idol group is "creepy." Oh the kettle and pot. You're always on the other side of the coin. 
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mewpudding101
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Definitely not the first elementary school idol group. For a recent example, Prizmmy☆ (elementary school, now middle school) and their JUNIOR GROUP of younger kids are constantly surrounded by older male fans. I remember going to the Pretty Rhythm movie premiere, and there were like 3 kids in the auidence, but the male audience was apparently really big fans of the little girls. Apparently, another female Pretty Rhythm fan heard a male fan say at a Prism Box concert that he was disappointed, because the kids were getting "old," and they were best when they were young.
Japan has a mentality of "young is pure," and that "raising" an idol from a young age has you grooming them to be your ideal. That's why you constantly see tons of idol groups with younger and younger members being debuted faster and faster with LESS practice. |
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Fedora-san
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So many people subscribe to the idea of an adult meeting or talking to a child is automatically sinister or dangerous and has to be stopped. But I suppose that's just how American culture is when it comes to stuff like this. Stranger danger and whatnot. Let's ignore the fact most of those crimes are done by family members or acquaintances to begin with so being so mistrustful of strangers doesn't help that much.
Japanese parents let little kids walk to school and run about by themselves to the point it would make American parents freak out if their kid walked away for only 5 minutes. And yet despite all the over-protection by parents in America we still have more child crimes. It really does seem like a cultural thing on being protective or thinking kids are too dumb to know better. |
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shiranehito
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In my country when I was little, there were some child celebrities / idols / singers and it was common and normal. The thing is, in my case, only kids idolize them. While in this case, some kind of perverted old men idolize child celebrities to the point that they gross out other fans.
I think maybe it has something to do with culture. I mean, in my place, no grown men would idolize (or maybe in this case, "worship") child idols. Only kids who are inspired by the idols do. I don't blame the producer. We don't know what happen behind the stage, but if the producer honestly just want to help the little girls achieve their dream to be idol, I won't blame him at all. The way I see it, they are not forced to wear something that is not fitting to their age - or putting on too much heavy make up - , so the producer must has no desire to sexualize them to sell for older audience. If I have to compare, Toddlers and Tiaras are far worse. |
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Hoppy800
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Oh dear god that's even worse, so not only are the idols getting younger and the male fanbase are getting more pathetic (that mentality can equate to wife husbandry of the olden days), now the managers are rushing in talent and not training them to their full potential or at least to the point they can perform the best they can. The Idol industry is in need of a reset button or a huge reality check. I like idols for their talent or talents both on or off stage not for their sex appeal. |
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joshjoshlol
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I just had to read the headline on this one and I felt a deep sense of revulsion. Good lord. I think as much as this opens up the japanese youth fetishism can of worms, it should also open up the japanese mental health taboo can of worms. Any grown adult who would dedicate their energy to such things as an elementary-aged idol group is in desperate need of psychiatric help.
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Polycell
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As long as they don't hurt anybody, I don't think they're much worse in any helpable way than a similarly obsessed fan of an adult group.
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enurtsol
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Actually, I believe people also frown upon such religious acts like female genital mutilation and satanic ritual abuse to scare the children straight. (Also, this can be turned around when people say, "American Puritan culture - deal with it.")
It's one thing to manufacture idols so young - that's one argument. But it's also another how they market them. Whether the adults who run these entertainment agencies market them to other kids, or if they market them to older grownups too. Kinda like if Nick or Disney markets their middle school teen stars to adults. If adults happen to like them too, fine - but actively trying to court adults to them........ For example, one can tell the intentions if the entertainment agency has a problem or not when the meet-and-greet crowd turns out a disproportionate amount of adults.
Still, do note that children typically don't have the experience and mental fortitude to handle sticky situations as well as more life-experienced adults, so what may be fine to handle for adults may have more repercussions for growing kids. The younger the kids, the even less life experience. Last edited by enurtsol on Wed Oct 01, 2014 10:36 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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Hawkwing
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I certainly agree with this. |
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jirg1901
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At what point does someone caring for their own child get labeled as pedo behaviour? People parenting age finding kids cute and endearing is normal.
Child idol group, fine, not any worse than any other child entertainer anyways. Child idol group with adult fans, we're still okay but probably need to be careful here. Child idol group with a relatively uncontrolled event with adult strangers? Might want to think about that one just a bit. A normal idol group would probably avoid that sort of thing even given the danger of being a celebrity. |
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Mr. Oshawott
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Well, I might as well look at this way: as long as the idols themselves are really okay with performing in front of adults and no harm is being done to them, I can live with it.
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mdo7
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For some of you that don't know what Hoppy800 is talking about, read this article from Dramafever, this will disturb you. |
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Chiibi
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Ew, that is creepy. D:
Poor little girls. |
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sailorsweeper
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Oh dear this is disturbing as what. |
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shamisen the great
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