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Tempest
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 1:54 am
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GATSU wrote: | Tempest: They didn't submit Sinbad, because it flopped with audiences and critics. |
Huh? I don't remember saying anything about Sinbad.
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GATSU
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Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 2:25 am
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Tempest: Sorry, I was responding to your citation.
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Nin Gin No Zo
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Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 5:49 pm
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Total crap. The truth is that they have problems allowing a foreign movie into an american contset because they know any anime, japanese, would kick the crap out of the american junk Disney pushes out every year.
And the oscar goes too...COWBOY BEBOP*cheering,claping, and cring*
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Nagisa
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Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 5:59 pm
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Wow...the elitism is beyond dangerous levels...
So tell me...if it came down to Finding Nemo going up against that Pokemon movie, you're saying you'd pull for the Pokemon movie?
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Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 6:27 pm
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Nagisa wrote: | So tell me...if it came down to Finding Nemo going up against that Pokemon movie, you're saying you'd pull for the Pokemon movie? |
Actually... I rather liked the latest Pokemon movie, and didn't find much appeal in Finding Nemo.
HOWEVER, Finding Nemo is still a better contender for the award, because it's a BETTER film; it had mass audience appeal, it used film techniques more effectively, and although the story didn't appeal to me, I can see how it was still more fully developed than the latest Pokemon.
Just because Pokemon wins in the "fun" category in my mind, doesn't make it the best animated film of the year.
Personally, though, I'm hoping it's the Triplets of Bellville.. because maybe then I'll actually have a chance to see it. :)
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GATSU
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Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 9:06 pm
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Cookie: Sony owns Triplets, so expect it on dvd eventually.
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MissKale
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 12:39 pm
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GATSU wrote: |
Quote: | That didn't stop Disney from submitting Treasure Planet. |
It did stop them from submitting Atlantis though.
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But in that year they had a commitee review the animated films that had come out that year, and that's how the nominations were determined. I'm trying to find the release, but I remember that they did watch Atlantis in consideration.
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Zeiram
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 12:01 pm
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Osiris lost? Nevermind the rest, how the heck did Osiris get kicked off? x_x
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Wolf Tooth
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 2:30 pm
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Maybe it's because Osiris isn't a family friendly movie I don't know I'm not part of the life-sucking Oscar staff.
I'm still mad that Millenium Actress didn't even get at least a meselly Best Forgen Film
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Tenchi
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 2:53 pm
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Millenium Actress didn't get nominated for Best Animated Feature because Dreamworks didn't do much, if any, of an Oscar campaign for it (and it wasn't submitted for consideration as Best Foreign Film, as, I think, Japan submitted a different film), while Samuel Goldwyn Films did a modest FYC campaign for Tokyo Godfathers, but it was released far too late in the game, and on too few screens, for it to overcome the critical momentum The Triplets of Belleville received.
Meanwhile, the Academy might have viewed Final Flight of the Osiris more as part of the overall marketing campaign for the Matrix sequels than as an independent work in and of itself. Yes, even if a short with a character from Ice Age as featured on the Ice Age DVD did get nominated. (Hmm... did Gone Nutty even get a theatrical release of any sort?)
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Aaron White
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 2:55 pm
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Tenchi wrote: | Meanwhile, the Academy might have viewed Final Flight of the Osiris more as part of the overall marketing campaign for the Matrix sequels than as an independent work in and of itself. ) |
Yes, added to which they may have viewed it as a promotional tie-in for the video game, which wouldn't exactly be wrong of them.
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Tenchi
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 3:21 pm
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Well, yeah, the video game tie-in aspect (which didn't quite occur to me) and what I mentioned before and the fact that, and I forgot to say before, the Ice Age related short is fairly self-contained. Even if you haven't seen Ice Age, the short is about a squirrel and a nut. It's so simple a concept that you don't need to know anything else in order to enjoy it, whilst you have to have all sorts of a priori knowledge about the Matrix universe in order to understand Final Flight of the Osiris.
If it were all up to me (and I'm not an Academy member of any sort), the only Animatrix short that would get nominated would be Beyond, which works much better on its own (though you still need to know the basic "they're unaware that they're in a virtual reality simulation" premise of the Matrix world), but that's besides the point.
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GATSU
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 6:24 pm
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One of the mistakes was having two films from the same cast together. That tends to cancel b oth of them out. Perhaps if Sony was aiming for a 2005 Oscar, it might have had a better chance.
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Tenchi
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 6:51 pm
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Yeah, actually, I sort of wish they had delayed Tokyo Godfathers until later this year. I think the whole point of rushing the release here was to take advantage of the Oscars, but to no avail, since it was The Triplets of Belleville that had the momentum this past Fall.
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Wolf Tooth
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 8:41 pm
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Oh well, there's always next year...
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