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darkhunter
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I wasn't even going to post but I'm really conflicted by the idea presented in this manga. Not only because it involve a 3rd Grader/ Teacher, but because Seven Sea pick up this title for a certain audience that get off on this. They're feeding the hunger...like they're doing with their new yuri line coming out.
I have to wonder if the student were high school or even middle school would Seven Sea consider picking it up? Not much controversy with the student were teen. But 3rd graders though??? Get the f outta here with that bullshit if you're a grown ass man. I just don't support the idea, so I'll have to pass on a title like this. This title is probably cute and funny, but that's not surprising since its target audiene thrive on cuteness and comedy. Moe + panties = deadly combination to many weak-hearted anime/manga fan. I can't say that this title is such...but from what I heard so far by others, there's finger licking part, and nudity....yup harmless fanservice for ya. Last edited by darkhunter on Sat Dec 02, 2006 5:31 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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detective392
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I think it is a risky move for them to bring this to america but i for one like soft-core loli just pantie shots not much more but i also found some more pages that look a little more badder then the first one this site has them the 3rd pic looks really bad
http://www.fs.thewafflehouse.net/?p=122 |
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Dirk Deppey
Posts: 7 Location: Tucson, AZ |
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I don't think it's guaranteed that this will cause trouble for Seven Seas by any means -- having yet to see the manga itself beyond the few selected pages recently posted online, I have no way of knowing just how much the content is defensible -- but as I've been noting on our magazine's blog, the notion that this won't draw bad publicity because it isn't hardcore kiddyporn is naive in the extreme. Comics featuring third-grade girls flashing their panties to their teachers and expressing a wish for intercourse are an accident waiting to happen, and unless there's some actual, non-sexual meat to the story in question, Nymphet is going to be a hard book to defend on a TV news-report segment.
Dirk Deppey Online Editor, The Comics Journal |
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chrono2005
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No it doesn't. And this firmly falls under the federal terminology of child porn. Suggestive scenes and dialogue prove that. If this book gets to the shelves of a mainstream bookstore than it'll be VERY lucky, because if some watchdog group grabs a hold of it the shitstorm that will hit manga/anime will be TITANIC! Books like Moon Phase would be heavily editted. ROBOT would become illegal in the USA. Air Gear would have to be as more heavily edited then Tenjho Tenge is. The NGE manga would have to be pulled from the shelves due to nudity. Nearly every bathroom/hot springs scene would be required to be edited or removed. Negima! maybe have to be completely pulled from the shelves. At the VERY least every manga company would be required to conform to an industry-wise Rating system, which I frankly wouldn't mind due to the scattershot ones that exist. And we'd probably see Adult rated manga be required to have shrinkwrap/moved to another shelf section. HOWEVER! I would love to see this on the shelves because it shows what does happen to male teachers later on in the higher grades(JRhigh-SRhigh), and would finally expose a nationally overlooked 'blindeye' that gets turned to these events. |
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fighterholic
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I'm just wondering how people were able to negotiate bringing this series over, on top of who had the brains to create it? You've got spoiler[an 8 year old ready like she's going to bang ol' teacher here with one of the best boners he'll ever get.]
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Patachu
Past ANN Contributor
 Posts: 1325 Location: San Diego |
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Well, you got your wish. Seven Seas has lost their balls and indefinitely delayed the release until they can have a little facts-of-life chat with booksellers.
The terrorists have won. |
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fighterholic
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Whoa, there's something there. When's this going to get posted on the front page?
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chrono2005
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It's not about being terrorists, isn't that quite the slang term!, it's about preventing a tidal wave of stupidity from happening. Which is something that generally happens when news reporters get a hold of it. Could you really defend Japan's broad sexuality stance on the 6 oclock news without being made to look like a social diveant? It's bad enough that the US court system wants to tag drawn/painted/2D/3D girls in the nude as child-porn.  But damn don't give them such blatant ammo to use!
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Truered
 Posts: 515 Location: Uni |
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Wow at first I thought it would just be something amusing...and more then just slightly perverted.
However that fourth image on the link of detective392 post kind of made me change my mind. I thought maybe I'd seen it wrong...but I hadn't. It could be amusing but it just seems a bit to close to the bone(r). Of course now its on hiatus. However i have caught glimpses (thankfully nothing more) of much worse. However without its release and me reading it, I'm not in the position to pass judgement. |
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HellKorn
Posts: 1669 Location: Columbus, OH |
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WHOA. Seriously... wow... I mean, that thread should really be put on the front page. A loli-tastic manga gets put on hiatus and its defenders crying about freedom of speech and how "Nymphet isn't bad" because there's worse stuff out there? That's amazing.
Would this be one of the few times that the stereotypical hardcore conservative with good moral values would be on the same side as "terrorists"? |
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grgspunk
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"Few times?" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! |
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Richard J.
 Posts: 3367 Location: Sic Semper Tyrannis. |
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fighterholic
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After having gone back and read a few opinions and concepts about this series, I really can't put myself on either side of the argument now, because I haven't read the series, but I know Japanese culture. That one image with spoiler[the girl holding up the piece of paper that says "nakadashikibou" ]is what the controversy is all about it seems, but it seems that the line is drawn right there, and doesn't overstep the boundaries most people seem to think it does. WIth all these anti-pedophile/anti-child pornography activists out there, I understand where they're coming from, but at the same time I think they are a bit overreacting here. At the same time I don't know what was in the head of the author when they came up with this idea, but there's not much else for me to say until I read it. I think though, that a lot of people here are being hypocritical about this whole issue. If you don't want this kind of stuff in and being exposed to your children, how about pushing to remove a whole bunch of the crap we have on American television right now?
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HellKorn
Posts: 1669 Location: Columbus, OH |
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I'd like to see how the whole "people haven't read it so they shouldn't be labeling it" argument is really debunking whatever those of us who don't think it's exactly the smartest decision to bring over material like Nymphet, let alone actually pornography. I'm not labeling it pornography. But considering that the girls in the manga are being sexualized, that it's a title specifically pandering to the lolicon-lovin' audience, and there are others scenes (which were indicated by someone in that thread, who listed various pages, and they did includes some nudity) that are strictly meant to get a boner out of the male readers who get off on that. Not to mention being called Nazis and whatnot just because you don't want loli-tastic manga to be spread around the United States, particularly in big chain stores. Y'know, that really ain't flattering. |
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Celes
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I'd like to add that unfortunately at this moment, people can't exactly read what they are protesting for or against because I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that most of us do not speak or read Japanese well enough to take a look at the books. Looking at the pictures is not justification for arguments. Manga, like most comics, are stories told through words and pictures, and you can't judge one without the other, just because you don't know what kind of context everything is in. I can understand not wanting a manga to be published because of the fact that this girl is 8 and she is trying to lay her teacher. But are people really taking this as a deep, dark, serious work of art? There are published reports that this is a comedy, parody, etc. And even if it WAS serious, it's not like literature that has touched US soil has not gone there before (Lolita, 100 Strokes of the Brush Before Bed, etc.). I do not believe this is pornographic because I do not think it is meant to arouse. Whether or not it does arouse some people is not the author's problem. If you picked up a copy of the shojo love-com Guru Guru Pon-Chan and saw dog poop on every other page and got aroused by it because you are a fecalphiliac, does that mean the work is now pornographic? |
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