Forum - View topicDVD hub broke my DVD
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Dargonxtc
 Posts: 4463 Location: Nc5xd7+ スターダストの海洋 |
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Has this happened to you?
I have been trying to look for a picture of the type of hub that did it, but I can't find one. So I will try to describe it. It is a snap-in hub that has no button, just an empty circle, so when you press in the center, nothing happens, and it is locked down really tight. The only way (least that I found) to remove it is to pick up the edge of the DVD and rotate, and it will eventually click off. But by doing this it bends the disc considerably. Luckaly, it wasn't a limited edition or anything like that, and I will be able to replace it for about $9 at TRSI. But the damn thing just snapped in half. Kinda pissed me off, the thing was a brand new volume one. So I did a quick inventory, and found that ADV uses these types of hub locks quite often(not singling them out I didn't go through all my DVDs, but my spot search supports this). So I have to be extra careful now, since I have hundreds of ADV DVDs. And its not like I haven't gotten these things off before, I just never thought enough force would be put on the disc to crack it in half. But sure enough. Anyway just had to vent. So if you have one of these locking systems be very careful. And I think they should ban them altogether. There are so many other better types of hubs out there, that there shouldn't be a need to hold the disc down with the force of a steel rivet. Has anything like this or simular happened to you? Any horror stories? Or am I just crazy? Edit: Update: Okay, I have gone through my collection, and it seems that only one company makes the cases with the nasty hubs. The name is Scanavo. And the only two licencers who seem to use that one is ADV and Geneon. But they don't use it exclusivly, and they don't even use the same hubs throughout the entire run of a particular series. Last edited by Dargonxtc on Mon May 07, 2007 1:27 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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DuelLadyS
 Posts: 1705 Location: WA state |
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Nothing broken yet (thank goodness), but I've got far too many discs with small cracks around the center for my liking.
I agree that there should be some sort of standardizing or quality-control on these cases, far too many just don't hold right. My favorite hub so far is the one from the Mai-Hime discs... imagine a big button thing that's only attached to the case along 1/4 of its edge. It holds in place remarkably well, but at the same time it takes no effort to push the hub in and out of the way to remove the disc. (Ok, that's a lie... my favorite hub is the ones in the PS2 cases, but I doubt they'll allow those for DVDs. Which really sucks. Heck, I'd pay a dollar or two more to see those as a standard case!) |
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Jedi General
 Posts: 2485 Location: Tucson, AZ |
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I haven't broken anything yet (thankfully), but I think I know what you're talking about, Dargonxtc. If I am picturing this correctly, Geneon has been using these recently. I've come dangerously close to breaking one of my Shana or Fate/Stay Night DVDs many a time recently. Those things are locked in there so tightly and like you described, it's just a circle with no button. God, they're annoying.
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AegisX
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This almost happened when I first got my copy of Black Jack: Seizure. Just a little circle with two tiny tabs holding in the DVD. Had to press the tabs(almost couldn't move them, they were so small) in while slowly sliding the disc out of the case. Of course I tried several other methods first, one of which almost snapped it in half, another almost horribly scratched the bottom, and still another involved a jackhammer and a Spanish midget. I won't go into details on the last one. It was too horrifying.
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Nerv1
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My X Remix Volume 3 dvd is in a case like this. I've never had any problems taking the disc out, but it does get on my nerves ever since I keep thinking that I'll scratch the disc or something when I'm taking it out.  Wow, this just made me remember the time that I stupidly scratched up my Escaflowne vol. 1, I'm still pissed about that. 
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digitalkikka
 Posts: 462 Location: Chicago, Illinois |
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The Geneon ones are evil. ADV used to use similiar ones (haven't seen them in a while) but with ADV's I was at least able to remove the disc quickly. If I push the entire circle-thing while holding the case (don't put it on a hard surface) then it pops out easily. But the Geneon ones... ugh. No matter what I do it's always a struggle. I've never broken a disc myself but I'm sure I've come pretty close. I agree with Dragonxtc- ban them
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indrik
 Posts: 365 Location: yonder |
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The problem is you need three hands. If you hold the case in the air and then push on the center of the holder thing, it just pops right out. But if you can figure out how to hold it firmly enough to push the center thing... you're more dextrous than I am.
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Zalis116
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 Posts: 6905 Location: Kazune City |
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Iritscen
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I've had to deal with those twist-them-off-the-hub dealios a lot lately, and they always get my blood pressure up. You definitely should not be bending the disc by more than, say, a centimeter when you pull it off. Rotate it back and forth an inch each way and pull up more gently, and it eventually comes loose.
If you bend a DVD you can cause microtears in the aluminum inner layer. Bad mojo. Of course these DVD hubs are to blame, ultimately. I've never understand what colossal idiocy could have led to that design (didn't they test it themselves?) Also, sometimes I don't place the DVD back on the hub all the way (place a note on the front of the case to warn your future self that the disc may fall out if you open it up while it's vertical), and sometimes I use jackets to keep the discs outside the case altogether, at least until I'm sure I won't be playing them again for a while, at which point I stick them back in the case properly. |
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ManOfRust
 Posts: 1935 Location: Seattle, WA |
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This is usually what I do too. Sometimes, though, it's tougher than others and I know I have come close to breaking a couple of DVDs. I hate, HATE, HATE that type of hub. I wonder how you even go about complaining to a case manufacturer about their product? They must know what a pain these things are. It's hard to imagine that the cases are significantly cheaper to produce with this type of hub, so I wonder why they keep making them this way. |
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Porcupine
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I haven't damaged any DVDs trying to remove them from the case ever, but I know the fear well. Here's a tip: If all else fails, bend the CASE, not the disc itself. That often does the trick. You can bend the case as much as you like and try to hold the disc steady...the case is worthless, besides the case is flexible and can't break anyway.
Rarely do I have to resort to that, but when I have, it has always worked for me. |
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Maryohki
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Damn! I know what you're talking about, and I've figured they were dangerous...and..CCS uses those! </3. Which is why I'm going to buy a soft DVD case and put all of my DVDs that have those cases in the soft case, namely CCS.
Oh, and I take them out by getting my fingers really close into the sides and squeezing the notch-like things outside the ring, then turning the case upside down while still squeezing. They usually come out that way ^^. |
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