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Roy9076



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:15 pm Reply with quote
OK, for the people who has seen Neon Genesis Evagelion, I want to see what you thought about the show. Before you discuss this, I want to see how much of Evangelion.

You seen the TV show, please state how much you watched it in a time span?
eg. I watched the show once a week in the DUB on [Adult Swim], and the SUB I watched the most as I can in a time limit (about a few episodes a day) before [Adult Swim].

How did you watch the movies? Which one? How long did you watch the film after you finished the TV show?
eg. I watched Death and Rebirth close to the end of the TV show and then End of Evangelion after the TV show finished.

Another thing I want to point out is that Evangelion is a damn trippy show that many people cannot get into or find appreciating because of the "hype." If you like the show, please state why you like it or if you hate it, then state why you hate the show. Please, use valid points because I want to see why you dislike/like it.

Final note: Is Neon Genesis Evangelion relate to psychology and philosophy? What is the psychoanalysis behind it all?

I'll post my thoughts after I finish this post.


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Roy9076



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:33 pm Reply with quote
When I first watched the show, I was lurking around anime forums and people were talking about Evangelion and I was curious on watching this show. However, I did not have the money to go invest on DVDs and so I did the poor way out: watch it on YouTube. After I watched many of the show on YouTube (in horrible quality), and when I finished the sub version, I watched Death and Rebirth. When I watched the entire show, I really thought that this show is really one of the best anime TV shows I ever sawn. However, I hated the quality and the subs were blurry and shaky and I was thankful that [Adult Swim] started showing. After watching the entire show in dub and better quality, I appreciated Evangelion a lot more! From there I became a fan and I really thought it was brilliant! However the last two episodes were very different and I did not think that it sucked, but interesting on going to this direction. The next day, I got End of Evangelion and watched it. This is when I thought that this show is brilliant in its own weird way. So it goes that I watched Evangelion partly near each other in 28 week span.

From studying this show, this is one of the most trippiest shows that someone can watch. It's a type of show that not a lot of people can get into nor can get. It's really a piece of work that really captures human behavior, philosophy, and psychology. I am giving too much credit that Evangelion is one of the best anime, but it really has something different. I personally love it not only as a fan, but in perspectives in all factors that deals with the humanity and the mind of humans. What I also found interesting is that the eposide titles of Evangelion also deals with psychological themes and each character has a different psychological tramua going on, especially the last 2 episodes where it invokes differences and psychoanalysis.
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Askman



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:45 pm Reply with quote
-I watched the show via the Platinum Collection. I wtached one disc a day, so it took me around a wekk to finish the series. I originally watched it subbed, but I have seen the whole series dubbed as well through Adult Swim and repeat viewings.

-I still have not watched Death and Rebirth, but I watched End of Evangelion after watching the TV show.

My thoughts on the series: When I first watched the series, I was still an anime newbie, and I thought it was completely amazing. Part of it was becuase the people who introduced me to the series worshipped everything about it, and just because I was still inexperienced with anime overall. I had originally given it a Masterpiece rating. I've looked back on it, and I must say that while many series still impress and excite me after repeat viewings, this series is not one of them. There are numerous plot holes and inconsistencies, the characters really rated on my nerves, and from what I've read, many things were added for the hell of it to make it look deeper.

It's still a very good series (so I rated it as such) and it should be watched by everyone who is interested or a fan of anime.
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Roy9076



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:51 pm Reply with quote
Thank you for posting Askman. I do agree that at first watch, it's either the view either does not get it or loves it. When I first watched it, I loved it, but most of the people I know that watched it didn't like it or were put off by it. Sure, it has a lot of plot holes and weird flowing, but people can still appreciate it. On a futher note, the hype for this show is pretty high and many people who watch it can be disappointed.

Thanks for your reply!

PS. Death and Rebirth is more like a crash course of the TV show with another weird ending. Nothing really can be spoiled on watching the film, but if you want a refresher before watching End of Evangelion, Death and Rebirth should be a quickie.
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Nerv1



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:52 pm Reply with quote
Well, I first saw Evangelion when I was 10 (about 6 years ago) when it premired on a San Jose PBS channel called KETH. They showed it every Sunday night at 9:30. I first started watching it on episode 8 up to episode 26. I got around to rewatching the series in 8th grade after realizing I could have borrowed it from my library.

Well, for the movies, I saw both of them last year via fansubs. I saw EOE first and then Death and Rebirth.

NGE is both philosopical and psychological. It deals with the end of the world depicted in religon(Judaism, Christianty, etc.) and it also deals with the problems the characters go through and how they lived with it throughout their lives.
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Nerv1



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 9:59 pm Reply with quote
Askman wrote:

My thoughts on the series: When I first watched the series, I was still an anime newbie, and I thought it was completely amazing. Part of it was becuase the people who introduced me to the series worshipped everything about it, and just because I was still inexperienced with anime overall. I had originally given it a Masterpiece rating. I've looked back on it, and I must say that while many series still impress and excite me after repeat viewings, this series is not one of them. There are numerous plot holes and inconsistencies, the characters really rated on my nerves, and from what I've read, many things were added for the hell of it to make it look deeper.


Same here. I considered NGE as one of the 1st anime series I ever watched. After watching it, I began to tell all of my friends about it (even though they ignored me). I got so sad after they stopped showing it.
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Roy9076



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:11 pm Reply with quote
Nerv1, thank you for your post! It seems so fat that Evangelion is one of the first anime that was sawn. Evangelion wasn't the first anime I watched or close to the newbie time, but I do agree with you on this one:
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NGE is both philosopical and psychological. It deals with the end of the world depicted in religon(Judaism, Christianty, etc.) and it also deals with the problems the characters go through and how they lived with it throughout their lives.


Does it make an interesting psychological standpoint? To me, it makes it a great point of what it tried to protray, but the presentation really adds up, but it does get tarnished by low budget and plot holes. Mad
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ikillchicken



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:16 pm Reply with quote
I borrowed my friends NGE box set. never saw the movies.

It had good aspects but had some massive flaws.

The main flaw being that there was no ending. The entire series is spent building up, adding more and more questions. Then you get to the final 3 episodes, at which point they completely abandon the entire actual story inorder to go into nothing but Psycological stuff. Now the whole Psycological aspect is fine, but only in conjunction with an actual story. You watch this stuff and think...okay that was interesting, now on to the actual story. Watch another episode...okay, I guess theyre gonna sum in all up in the last episode. Watch one more...okay, wtf? The whole psycological aspect is cool and all, but you cant substitute it for a genuine plot.

Also, it really didn't make sense that throughout the whole thing, no one (especially Shinji) is asking what on earth is going on. Do giant creatures called Angels regularilly attack earth and nobody told me?
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Nerv1



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:21 pm Reply with quote
ikillchicken wrote:
I borrowed my friends NGE box set. never saw the movies.

It had good aspects but had some massive flaws.

The main flaw being that there was no ending. The entire series is spent building up, adding more and more questions. Then you get to the final 3 episodes, at which point they completely abandon the entire actual story inorder to go into nothing but Psycological stuff. Now the whole Psycological aspect is fine, but only in conjunction with an actual story. You watch this stuff and think...okay that was interesting, now on to the actual story. Watch another episode...okay, I guess theyre gonna sum in all up in the last episode. Watch one more...okay, wtf? The whole psycological aspect is cool and all, but you can't substitute it for a genuine plot.

Also, it really didn't make sense that throughout the whole thing, no one (especially Shinji) is asking what on earth is going on. Do giant creatures called Angels regularilly attack earth and nobody told me?


Your supposed to interpret the entire series by yourself. If your still confused, check out Wikipedia's page about Evangelion, it should answer your questions.
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one3rd



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:23 pm Reply with quote
Roy9076 wrote:
sawn


I probably wouldn't point this out if you hadn't used the word repeatedly, but I can't help but step in here. The correct past participle of "see" is "seen," not "sawn." "Sawn" can be used as the past tense of the verb "saw" as in to cut with a saw. If you aren't a native English speaker, however, this error is forgivable.
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Roy9076



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:43 pm Reply with quote
Nerv1 wrote:
ikillchicken wrote:
I borrowed my friends NGE box set. never saw the movies.

It had good aspects but had some massive flaws.

The main flaw being that there was no ending. The entire series is spent building up, adding more and more questions. Then you get to the final 3 episodes, at which point they completely abandon the entire actual story inorder to go into nothing but Psycological stuff. Now the whole Psycological aspect is fine, but only in conjunction with an actual story. You watch this stuff and think...okay that was interesting, now on to the actual story. Watch another episode...okay, I guess theyre gonna sum in all up in the last episode. Watch one more...okay, wtf? The whole psycological aspect is cool and all, but you can't substitute it for a genuine plot.

Also, it really didn't make sense that throughout the whole thing, no one (especially Shinji) is asking what on earth is going on. Do giant creatures called Angels regularilly attack earth and nobody told me?


Your supposed to interpret the entire series by yourself. If your still confused, check out Wikipedia's page about Evangelion, it should answer your questions.
Watch the movie because it answers a lot of questions left off from the movie and then some. :3

@one3rd: Next time I'll re-read the post and find the mistakes. I was more focus on submitting on what I want to say rather than the grammar. Thank you for point that out! ^,^
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Iwatch2muchanime



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:54 pm Reply with quote
I first watched it through borrowing from a friend. I watched it in a span of 2 days, 1/3 the first and finished the next.

Watched the movies almost half a year later through the same way and person, finished the night I got it. Watched em in order of course.

(Then I watched it all again on AS and watched the movies again, which my uncle now owns and I've only seen this one dubbed)

I like the show quite a bit, I'm happy about the new movies, Why did I like it? Well, for a "mech" anime, which I was liking a bit at the time (Gundam Wing, Nadesico, Magic Knight Rayearth), I thought it dove DEEP into a mix of mind screwing twists and turns that almost made me not want to watch after a while but was glad I did because I liked how it "ended". The animation, both design and movement, I liked a lot from Eva's to the Angels to most of the people. I liked some of the character, like a lot of people I don't like Shinji or Asuka, but Rey was a nice throw in but the way she ended up was a let down for me, but that won't effect my thesis on this show. I wished the penguin had a more important role throuout the show and the movies (well the 1st one wasn't all that great) were a decent "ending" to it and I liked it.
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Roy9076



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:00 pm Reply with quote
Iwatch2muchanime, interesting points! I see what you mean and understand on why you like it. When I first sawn the show, I was like that and I really love this show to death. However, when I watched this show again and studied why I like it and what is really the show trying to offer, I pointed out that I love the show because it was very trippy, different type of "mecha" anime and the whole psychological drama.
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ikillchicken



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:28 pm Reply with quote
Nerv1 wrote:
ikillchicken wrote:
I borrowed my friends NGE box set. never saw the movies.

It had good aspects but had some massive flaws.

The main flaw being that there was no ending. The entire series is spent building up, adding more and more questions. Then you get to the final 3 episodes, at which point they completely abandon the entire actual story inorder to go into nothing but Psycological stuff. Now the whole Psycological aspect is fine, but only in conjunction with an actual story. You watch this stuff and think...okay that was interesting, now on to the actual story. Watch another episode...okay, I guess theyre gonna sum in all up in the last episode. Watch one more...okay, wtf? The whole psycological aspect is cool and all, but you can't substitute it for a genuine plot.

Also, it really didn't make sense that throughout the whole thing, no one (especially Shinji) is asking what on earth is going on. Do giant creatures called Angels regularilly attack earth and nobody told me?


Your supposed to interpret the entire series by yourself. If your still confused, check out Wikipedia's page about Evangelion, it should answer your questions.


Please dont talk to me like Im some dumb kid saying: Duhhh....i don get it...

Interpreting it is one thing. But you arent left just to interpret stuff after NGE. Youre left with huge unawnsered questions, stuff that you cant simply come up with your own oppinion on. Not to mention, the "ending" doesnt really seem to be much of a conclusion. So is that is? All the Angels are gone, everythings fine now, the end.
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Iwatch2muchanime



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:32 pm Reply with quote
ikillchicken wrote:
Nerv1 wrote:
ikillchicken wrote:
I borrowed my friends NGE box set. never saw the movies.

It had good aspects but had some massive flaws.

The main flaw being that there was no ending. The entire series is spent building up, adding more and more questions. Then you get to the final 3 episodes, at which point they completely abandon the entire actual story inorder to go into nothing but Psycological stuff. Now the whole Psycological aspect is fine, but only in conjunction with an actual story. You watch this stuff and think...okay that was interesting, now on to the actual story. Watch another episode...okay, I guess theyre gonna sum in all up in the last episode. Watch one more...okay, wtf? The whole psycological aspect is cool and all, but you can't substitute it for a genuine plot.

Also, it really didn't make sense that throughout the whole thing, no one (especially Shinji) is asking what on earth is going on. Do giant creatures called Angels regularilly attack earth and nobody told me?


Your supposed to interpret the entire series by yourself. If your still confused, check out Wikipedia's page about Evangelion, it should answer your questions.


Please don't talk to me like Im some dumb kid saying: Duhhh....i don get it...

Interpreting it is one thing. But you arent left just to interpret stuff after NGE. Youre left with huge unawnsered questions, stuff that you can't simply come up with your own oppinion on. Not to mention, the "ending" doesnt really seem to be much of a conclusion. So is that is? All the Angels are gone, everythings fine now, the end.


More like EVERYTHING'S gone and only VERY little are left to wallow around.

(Very little
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