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LydiaDianne



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:13 am Reply with quote
I agree with what everyone else has told you.

NOW...if you were to ask a question like:

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I enjoy watching anime that have mikos in them. My absolute favorite two miko anime are Fushigi Yugi and Inu Yasha. I like these the best because of the animation, they have some of my Favorite VAs (Araki Kae and Yamaguchi Kappei) and I like how the characters are able to relate with each other and with the villians.

I have heard about the shows Shrine of the Morning Mist and Kannazuki no Miko. I've also looked at the Encyclopedia entries, but I'm still not really sure which one I should choose.

Has anyone seen these and could you give me your recommendations.

Thank you!


Something like THAT just might not get locked. It shows that you took the time to do a little looking on your own, you mentioned two shows that you like and why. And then gave two choices of what you would like to buy/watch.

I've done the above before, and if I recall correctly, my thread was not locked and I got excellent advice (even if I did screw up my "My Anime" links Embarassed )

There are rules here and there are going to be rules for everything in your life for the rest of your life...you just have to decide whether or not you want to go along to get along.
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daxomni



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:47 am Reply with quote
The Seventh Son wrote:
its a good thing that theyre getting strict. there has been too much crap on these forums for a while. more sensible topics.


If they were really getting strict they probably would have warned and then banned you for repeatedly flouting the rules, including your unbelievably lazy grammar. It's bad enough that you're allowed to break the rules over and over, but listening to you complain about other people breaking the rules is just too much.
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Nagisa
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:49 am Reply with quote
daxomni wrote:
The Seventh Son wrote:
its a good thing that theyre getting strict. there has been too much crap on these forums for a while. more sensible topics.


If they were really getting strict they probably would have warned and then banned you for repeatedly flouting the rules, including your unbelievably lazy grammar. It's bad enough that you're allowed to break the rules over and over, but listening to you complain about other people breaking the rules is just too much.


And you should practice what you preach. Way to flout the rules and brow beat people for...flouting the rules.
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daxomni



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:08 am Reply with quote
Nagisa wrote:
And you should practice what you preach. Way to flout the rules and brow beat people for...flouting the rules.


It's certainly true that I break the rules myself as I'm sure everyone is already aware, but I still think he should have been banned by now, regardless. It's not a knock against the mods, just a personal opinion.
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Ohoni



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:22 am Reply with quote
This board definitely does have some strange and pointless rules, that much is obvious to everyone, but the mods'll be damned before they'd consider changing them, so what can any of us peons do about it?
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Vortextk



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:25 am Reply with quote
90% of the rules won't bother the people ANN wants to attract. It's like if I had a rule that whoever wanted to be my girlfriend had to breathe...

There are no need for lists/most recommendation threads because people can just create their own personal list of anime in their profile. You can simply find someone with similar tastes and browse away.

And in a totally non-mean way, if you want to do things against the rules here, find forums that suit your taste better.
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adonais



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:15 am Reply with quote
The only thing I dislike more than the rules on this forum are all the sanctimonious hypocrites, whose greatest pleasure seems to be to tell newbies to go away if they don't like it. Like this thread, the general response elicited disgusts me somewhat.

Thanks to mods and admins offering some history and explanations, we can understand that the rules are probably improving the overall quality of the forum - at the expense of imposing constraints that can also have negative effects on certain types of discussions and posts [1]. In the balance, they think that such strict rules are the better option. But this is the light I think the rules should be seen in: a necessary evil, not something to rejoice in, because they restrict the freedom of speech, and do lead, invariably, to contradictions arising and exceptions to the rules being made constantly. [2] The new "read-the-whole-thread-before-posting" is another example of a rule that will almost certainly never be obeyed for a long thread. This rule somehow implies remebering the whole thread, unless it is implicitly understood that "I read the whole thread but forgot" is an acceptable premise, while "I didn't read the whole thread" is not.


Notes:

[1] The "no-list" part of rule #3 is an obvious one. To some questions, the best answer is simply a list. Suppose, purely hypothetically speaking, that I have a fetish for girls with red hair and green eyes and post the question: "Hey, which anime have girls with red hair and green eyes?" Guess what answer I want back? It is, ta-daa...a list! Because I don't give a smut about what other people actually think about those shows, I didn't ask for that, I just want to know the titles.

[2] Yeah, not everybody bothers to actually follow the rules they so happily toss in the face of newbies. Just take a gander at the last page or so of the Black Lagoon thread: is there a single post that does not violate rule #3? Rule #6 also frequently flouted by long-time members without consequence. But woe to the newbie who accidentally violates the same rule.
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CGord



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 8:06 am Reply with quote
Mr.Diction wrote:
As my name would suggest, i love the way this forum is run, i enjoy full and (at least attempted) proper spelling, along with nice discussion, if i want a recommendation list, i'd use a filter with the encyclopedia.


I'd recommend concentrating on run-on sentences & capitalization.
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aya_honda



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 8:42 am Reply with quote
Wow, there were a lot of drastic responses on this thread and this is why sometimes I'm quite afraid of posting something. Embarassed

But I agree with the general idea of this thread that the rules are done to confer some quality to the discussions that are here. Even if I don't post in a thread, I like very much to read the threads and to understand the experiences and the thoughts that other people have. I have met on this forum many intelligent people and I think that this has been possible due to the fact that people were able to express them (which wouldn't happen if there would be only recommendations threads or lists or whatever...) From nature we tend not to like too much the rules, but they are made to obtain some quality here, which is needed if you want to create a quality forum. It's common sense.

And I also agree with the fact that everybody breaks the rules at some point. It's impossible not to do mistakes. We are only human. We just have to learn from the mistakes that we do and to admit that we made them at some point in our time spent here.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:48 pm Reply with quote
Well currently the only thing worse than recommendation threads or list threads are "I'm gonna bitch about the rules" threads!

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The new "read-the-whole-thread-before-posting" is another example of a rule that will almost certainly never be obeyed for a long thread. This rule somehow implies remebering the whole thread, unless it is implicitly understood that "I read the whole thread but forgot" is an acceptable premise, while "I didn't read the whole thread" is not.


Man am I tired of hearing people complain about that one. Some of you people act like we're asking oh-so-much of you to practice a little common sense and basic reading comprehension. How is it that I don't have any problem reading a long thread and remembering what I read before posting but some of you folks act like I'm asking you to the hardest and most unfair thing in the world?

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The only thing I dislike more than the rules on this forum are all the sanctimonious hypocrites, whose greatest pleasure seems to be to tell newbies to go away if they don't like it. Like this thread, the general response elicited disgusts me somewhat.


Okay, so here's my question; there are countless other anime forums out there and doubtlessly one of them is just perfect for you. So why in the world do you hang around here and complain so much about our rules? Just find a community that suits your needs. Why is that so hard?

I guess must be at least as difficult as reading something!
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KyuuA4



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:53 pm Reply with quote
I'm surprised this cursed thread isn't disposed of yet.
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Mr.Diction



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:10 pm Reply with quote
CGord wrote:
Mr.Diction wrote:
As my name would suggest, i love the way this forum is run, i enjoy full and (at least attempted) proper spelling, along with nice discussion, if i want a recommendation list, i'd use a filter with the encyclopedia.


I'd recommend concentrating on run-on sentences & capitalization.



Diction has nothing to do with grammar and syntax, it's simply choice of words. So unless your having difficulting understanding what it is I tell you, refrain from responding to my reasonably good-natured posts with your oddly directed, and poorly concieved taunts.
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TestamentSaki



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:10 pm Reply with quote
It'll probably be soon if this gets worse.
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Zalis116
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:42 pm Reply with quote
Zac wrote:
Well currently the only thing worse than recommendation threads or list threads are "I'm gonna bitch about the rules" threads!
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The only thing I dislike more than the rules on this forum are all the sanctimonious hypocrites, whose greatest pleasure seems to be to tell newbies to go away if they don't like it. Like this thread, the general response elicited disgusts me somewhat.
Okay, so here's my question; there are countless other anime forums out there and doubtlessly one of them is just perfect for you. So why in the world do you hang around here and complain so much about our rules? Just find a community that suits your needs. Why is that so hard?

I guess must be at least as difficult as reading something!
Laughing I don't see what's so "sanctimonious" about suggesting that people go somewhere else if they don't like how ANN runs things. It's honestly the best solution for someone who has issues with teh rules. Why? Every 1-2 months, one of these "This place is unfair / Teh Rules are too strict / The mods are goosestepping Nazis" threads comes up, and the overall response is generally the same. What do people hope to accomplish by posting these threads? Do they honestly think that Zac or tempest is going to reply and say, "You know what, you're right. I suppose we can allow lists, recommendation threads, and sloppy writing. Thank you for opening our eyes and helping us to realize the error of our ways."?

@adonais: If you think long-term posters are breaking the rules (such as #6, the excessive quoting rule), then report it. For the record, I shorten every quote as much as I can (snipping irrelevant sections, eliminating return characters), so I'm at least free of that sanctimonious hypocrisy on that rule.
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Tony K.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 7:41 pm Reply with quote
KyuuA4 wrote:
I'm surprised this cursed thread isn't disposed of yet.

I've been at work all day.
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