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Seviper009
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Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:34 pm
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The castlist was updated, Mariya Yuri is voiced by Hilary Haag.
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SquadmemberRitsu
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Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:08 pm
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Wow, it looks the same as just about every other Sentai dub
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FrameFreeze100
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Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:43 pm
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SquadmemberRitsu wrote: | Wow, it looks the same as just about every other Sentai dub |
Yep pretty much. While there are a few people I enjoying hearing, others I'm growing a bit sick of...
Seems like Seraphim Digital is the only dubbing studio not trying to grow and improve (besides a small handful of pretty good newcomers).
Funimation, Bang Zoom, NYAV Post and New Generation Pictures all use voice talent from various regions and try to put out better dubs.
I guess Seraphim likes things as they are.
I'd like to hear some Funimation VAs in Sentai dubs but it looks like for the indefinite future it's a one way street where only Houston VAs sometimes work on Funimation dubs.
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RazzBerrieCharm
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Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:28 pm
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Repetition aside, am I the only one that is waiting for more news on Uta Pri(I wouldn't mind having David Matranga being Masato...)?
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bravetailor
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Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:33 pm
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Monica Rial certainly has been prolific these last two years. She's the lead heroine in practically everything these days...
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Joe anime
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Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:33 pm
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FrameFreeze100 wrote: |
SquadmemberRitsu wrote: | Wow, it looks the same as just about every other Sentai dub |
Yep pretty much. While there are a few people I enjoying hearing, others I'm growing a bit sick of...
Seems like Seraphim Digital is the only dubbing studio not trying to grow and improve (besides a small handful of pretty good newcomers).
Funimation, Bang Zoom, NYAV Post and New Generation Pictures all use voice talent from various regions and try to put out better dubs.
I guess Seraphim likes things as they are.
I'd like to hear some Funimation VAs in Sentai dubs but it looks like for the indefinite future it's a one way street where only Houston VAs sometimes work on Funimation dubs. |
Some of those VA's have worked on both Sentai and FUNimation dubs.
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FrameFreeze100
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Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:03 pm
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Joe anime wrote: |
FrameFreeze100 wrote: |
SquadmemberRitsu wrote: | Wow, it looks the same as just about every other Sentai dub |
Yep pretty much. While there are a few people I enjoying hearing, others I'm growing a bit sick of...
Seems like Seraphim Digital is the only dubbing studio not trying to grow and improve (besides a small handful of pretty good newcomers).
Funimation, Bang Zoom, NYAV Post and New Generation Pictures all use voice talent from various regions and try to put out better dubs.
I guess Seraphim likes things as they are.
I'd like to hear some Funimation VAs in Sentai dubs but it looks like for the indefinite future it's a one way street where only Houston VAs sometimes work on Funimation dubs. |
Some of those VA's have worked on both Sentai and FUNimation dubs. |
Only because they were "original ADV" people who eventually worked at Funimation after ADV's demise; before Sentai rose from its ashes, or they were part of the "wave" of ADV people who auditioned for Funimation when the talent pool started to expand after Dragon Ball stuff.
What I meant to say was there has yet to be any Funimation VA who NEVER worked for ADV in the past (AKA a person who spent their whole anime career thus far with only Funimation) who has worked on a Sentai dub
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PurpleWarrior13
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Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:10 pm
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Though Caitlin Glass, Colleen Clinkenbeard, Stephanie Nadolny, and Mike McFarland all did work for ADV at some point or another, and they started at FUNimation. However, they haven't done any work in Houston since ADV Studios became Seraphim Digital.
Seraphim uses some new people like Rebekka Stevens-Gibbs, Adam Gibbs, Gennevive Simmons (and Juliet Simmons who I guess is her sister), Caitlynn French, and a few others, but yeah it is mostly Emily Neves, David Matranga, Monica Rial, Hilary Haag, Luci Christian, Greg Ayres, Blake Shepherd, Josh Grelle, Brittany Karbowski, Maggie Flecknoe, David Wald, and a couple others.
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YamadaKun
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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:14 am
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SquadmemberRitsu wrote: | Wow, it looks the same as just about every other Sentai dub |
Quit complaining. Would you rather they use a bunch of noobs, who would freeze during the "beep, beep, beep" process and have the most lame cartoony voices ever? And they do this in EVERY form of entertainment. US cartoons? Overusage. Japanese versions of anime(which abuses the same VAs 100X worse than we do) and dubbed media? Overusage. Hollywood movies? Overusage. But for some reason only one sector of media is stigmatized for this. There are reasons for this you know. Stop whining and shut the fudge up.
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CrownKlown
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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:36 am
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Funimation has Vic Mignoa in every single show. They are just as bad if not worse than Sentai. In fact all of the major stuido are like that. And with all due respect to the voice talents in Japan, they do the same thing, its not just Sentai. There are only a handful of voice actors that are used in both original Japanese and dubs; and pretty much the only studio that actually uses "new" talent is Ghbili, because they get actually actors and recognizable voices, you know spend something called money to get really good dubs. And then they get criticized for not hiring the same group of bums that dub everything else.
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KLAC
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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 6:23 am
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so seeing this dub cast list on Campione
blake as godou
rial as italy blonde female
haag as miho character
genevieve (having break out year) as liliana
carli as ena
karb as athena
also there fleck, luci, 2nd simmons, & others on it well wait & see how it goes dub arrive come in.
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bs3311
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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:57 am
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squadmemberRistu wrote: | Wow, it looks the same as just about every other Sentai dub |
Not quite, Jason Grundy is ADR director. And Greg Ayres is nowhere to be seen .
FrameFreeze100 wrote: |
Seems like Seraphim Digital is the only dubbing studio not trying to grow and improve (besides a small handful of pretty good newcomers). |
If getting new voice talent, ADR directors, and sound engineers does not count as "grow and improve", than I don't know what is.
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Funimation, Bang Zoom, NYAV Post and New Generation Pictures all use voice talent from various regions and try to put out better dubs. |
Where is this so called various regional voice talent? I can only think of 2 actors that use a home studio to record lines. (ex: Vic, and Cherami). And Colleen Klinkenbeard says that due to deadlines on dubs, they get people they know the most to work on there dubs. And it shows with the cast lists that shows the same people over, over, and over. Except for titles like Haganai with a smaller handful of new VA's (which sound bad IMO) compared to Sentai's new actors. Well its your opinion. Bang Zoom acts like Funi and Sentai too. But I see that NYAV and them are tied together a bit (ex:Fate/Zero, Tiger and Bunney) so I say I can agree they have some different regional actors. But Bang Zoom uses the 4 beep rule which I find to be noticeable with some of there dubs when they record praticullly every single sentence.
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I'd like to hear some Funimation VAs in Sentai dubs but it looks like for the indefinite future it's a one way street where only Houston VAs sometimes work on Funimation dubs. |
Todd, Brina, Tipton, and everyone else can stay where thay are IMO. Besides, they would not budge unless Funimation was coming down.
PurpleWarrior13 wrote: | Though Caitlin Glass, Colleen Clinkenbeard, Stephanie Nadolny, and Mike McFarland all did work for ADV at some point or another, and they started at FUNimation. However, they haven't done any work in Houston since ADV Studios became Seraphim Digital. |
Really!
Well, "I guess all was within the one(ADV), and if all is not included within the one(ADV). Then all is nothing" .
Now I dislike Mike a bit more for not allowing Matt Greenfield to voice Hyuga again in the EVA rebuild movies. Matt was even okay to do it FOR NO PAY! Oh well.
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getchman
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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:57 am
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CrownKlown wrote: | Funimation has Vic Mignoa in every single show. |
you sure you don't mean Monica Rial? Vic's not present in any of the recent and upcoming shows that funi is releasing. His last major role was Prince Baka in Level E and that came out last December
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YamadaKun
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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 1:05 pm
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Quote: | Ghbili, because they get actually actors and recognizable voices, you know spend something called money to get really good dubs. And then they get criticized for not hiring the same group of bums that dub everything else. |
The Japanese "VAs" for Ghibli movies get criticized because they cannot voice act for shit. They're boring and bland. Rather than hiring professional VAs, Miyazaki and friends hires TV stars, models, non VAs and the acting turns to shit. In the case of the English versions, the "VAs" get bashed for this reason.
Quote: | Something Billy West said |
Quote: | Celebrities are not superlatives in our field of expertise. If celebrities that are schnoring in on our field started out trying to do what we do and were held to the standards we started out upholding, a great many of them would've never made it. It's easy for a celebrity to audition for a character who looks and sounds just like him or her. Now the studio creates characters based upon who they had in mind for the role in the first place, like a rigged fight. There is no magic, no transformation or sonic alchemy, no voices we've never heard before and no chance for most journeymen who are voice artisans to work in animated features. The general consensus is "Why?" Kids and adults pay no mind to whether Brad Pitt, David Schwimmer or Spade or Will Smith is blessing the project with their "magic" talent. For the characters they play, it could be my brother in law or the plumber. It is what it is and it will never change. This is because the folks in question know that every other huge movie is now a CGI movie. It eliminates the need for on-camera performers including stars and celebrities. Being a star or celeb does not equal the God-given gifts of those in the real craft. I'm waiting for the professional athletes to "eminent domain" us. But in general, I enjoy and respect these folks at the work they do best. |
And you what? He's right. These celebrities are not voice actors and can't voice act for shit. At least the VAs in dubs have better acting chops and more experiencing in dubbing. I've seen a lot of these "English Miyazaki behind the scenes" features and a lot of the "VAs" say they have never done dubbing or even voice acting ever. Great start, right? You're an idiot, who thinks production values=quality. Thanks, but no thanks and you're wrong. You probably like Bayformers over Shawsank Redemption or The Hunchback of Notre Dame over Princess Mononoke.
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bravetailor
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Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 1:34 pm
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While I think Ghibli's dubs generally turn out okay--both in english and Japanese--I totally agree that voice acting is an underrated craft and not everyone can do them as a career.
Most anime voice actors are very talented in their field. You kind of have to think of them as a stage troupe--they're a small group of people working for a company that act out various productions.
I do think that sometimes you need to switch up the leads--there are some VAs who could get more time as leads instead of supporting characters, and vice versa--but generally, the anime dubbing industry seem to operate on peaks and valleys. Some actors could be in everything in sight for about 1-2 years, and then level off into a lighter workload for the next 2 years, and then amp it up again later on. Clearly, we are in a Monica Rial "peak" period right now. In 2012, it was a Brittney Karbowski "peak" lead period, but this year she's been doing more support roles.
This is also true for the Japanese VA industry. There are some actors and actresses who are everything in sight for a while (remember Megumi Hayashibara?), and then level off, and then pick up again. And then there are some who putter on for decades getting steady work as both leads and supports, but not peaking at any one period.
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