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GAME: Dragon's Crown

He thinks the designs are disgusting, so do you, and I don't particularly care for them either. What's the point?

Uhh...there is a difference between "removing content that exists" and "perhaps not including content to begin with"

Telling people they shouldn't do something and forcing them not to do it are, obviously, two completely different things.

Ultimately this all comes back to one simple truth: All that people are asking is that they be able to enjoy Dragon's Crown as well without having to deal with these insultingly stupid depictions of female characters. And you're saying no. You want boobs and that's way more important than being inclusive to female players. You're being selfish and unreasonable no matter how you choose to dress it up. All your bullshit is nothing but self serving rhetoric to try and hide this bottom line.

who are the outside forces causing content to be left out of games in this scenario in your head, and by what mechanism do they prevent the content from being in the game?

My point was that Tae-Kim is a terrible artist.

Seriously?

You don't even need a governmental difference anymore to ban something, just a minority that stirs up the pot loud enough to gain local and national media attention. Chagen I like to debate with you didn't grow up in the 80's-90's where there was massive outcry to out right ban violent games "how the esrb was created". Violent or sexual music lyrics that got "parental advisory labels". Please do some research before making statements like this PLEASE!!

http://www.esrb.org/about/chronology.jsp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parents_Music_Resource_Center

Cecilthedarkknight_234 wrote:

You don't even need a governmental difference anymore to ban something, just a minority that stirs up the pot loud enough to gain local and national media attention. Chagen I like to debate with you didn't grow up in the 80's-90's where there was massive outcry to out right ban violent games "how the esrb was created". Violent or sexual music lyrics that got "parental advisory labels". Please do some research before making statements like this PLEASE!! http://www.esrb.org/about/chronology.jsp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parents_Music_Resource_Center

the esrb and the riaa warning stickers are industry responses to perceived market forces. you seem to think that the creators of intellectual property and the people who control the means of distributing it are working towards the same goal. this will lead you to many false conclusions

ikillchicken wrote:

Telling people they shouldn't do something and forcing them not to do it are, obviously, two completely different things.

That just means you lack the power and force to make it happen, which is great.

Surely being more inclusive to readers is more important than keeping any of the violence in that comic You wouldn't want to be self-serving about this because you want the comic to stay the same way it is, do you?

Nobody is buying this silly rhetoric. Just stop.

I've never seen so many pages of back and forth on a game article here before. Same with the recent X Button. And all it took was a pair of boobs to stoke the fires. That says something.

ikillchicken wrote:

Nobody is buying this silly rhetoric. Just stop.

Your refusal to answer the question says more than an actual answer would. You're quick to cite it on something you disapprove of, but the minute it applies to something you do like, it's a silly rhetoric.

Comic books have had a stigma against female readers for the longest time so it makes the comparison all the more fitting.