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NEWS: Navarre in the Red due to Music Land


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v1cious



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:03 pm Reply with quote
well this can't be good. how bad is this gonna effect Funimation?

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Pyoko



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:10 pm Reply with quote
"Funimation is currently performing below expectations."

Wow, that's a real surprise considering all the buzz and how big they've become in the last couple of years.
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ACDragonMaster



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:50 pm Reply with quote
So it sounds like it might be less an issue of Funi doing poorly, exactly, and more an issue that one of the major chains of stores selling anime closed down, thus messing with distribution.

Also if I recall Navarre basically does all the distribution of Funi's stuff now, since they have a wider reach for that sort of thing, I suppose it'd take a little time for that to make a difference, though.
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xstylus



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:13 pm Reply with quote
v1cious wrote:
well this can't be good. how bad is this gonna effect Funimation


It's not. Funimation is lucky enough to be able to shine it off because of the resources of their Navarre parent. Good thing they had the merger, I guess. It's ADV and Geneon that one should worry about. Word on the grapevine is that it hurt ADV especially bad.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:20 pm Reply with quote
xstylus wrote:
Word on the grapevine is that it hurt ADV especially bad.

No grapevine needed. Just check out the numbers.
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xstylus



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:24 pm Reply with quote
JMays wrote:
xstylus wrote:
Word on the grapevine is that it hurt ADV especially bad.

No grapevine needed. Just check out the numbers.


Yep, that's not pretty.

There's not a doubt in my mind that some companies WILL be shutting down because of this.

You'll notice that Bandai isn't on that list. Apparently they must've smelled a rotting corpse and pulled out just in time.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:37 pm Reply with quote
JMays wrote:
xstylus wrote:
Word on the grapevine is that it hurt ADV especially bad.

No grapevine needed. Just check out the numbers.


Well, in several cases the numbers are worse. Media Blasters says they are owed $2.2 million (a 22% increase) and Funimation said $12.8 million (a 91% increase). So ADV could easilly be owed much more than the $2.3 million listed.

Or perhaps only a few dollars more...
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 3:48 pm Reply with quote
Well, unfortunately, there's not much Navarre can do about it. However, for some reason I feel this isn't going to be as harmful as the numbers look.
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lantis



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 4:00 pm Reply with quote
Funimation had net sales in the fiscal 3rd quarter (that is Oct-Dec. 2005 for them) of $8.8 million according to Navarre's 10-Q report. That means that there 12.8 million dollar write off from Musicland was approximately a quarter and a half of total sales.

That shows some very bad accounts receivable controls. If the annual sales are 35.8 million and let's say Musicland controls 25% of anime sales in the U.S., that would give about 9 million. 12.8 million dollars would be approximately 5 quarters of Musicland sales that were not paid for. Time to get a new CFO.

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ACDragonMaster



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 5:22 pm Reply with quote
xstylus wrote:
You'll notice that Bandai isn't on that list. Apparently they must've smelled a rotting corpse and pulled out just in time.


Could be. There were plenty of Bandai-released series amongst the stuff the local MediaPlay was getting rid of when it closed...

Joe Mello wrote:
Well, unfortunately, there's not much Navarre can do about it. However, for some reason I feel this isn't going to be as harmful as the numbers look.


Well, not much they can do about it at the present, though they (and the other companies) can hope to get some of that owed money back later. The bigger point though I think is that Navarre can absorb the loss for now, which puts Funi in a much better position than the other small anime companies who can't and thus need to get that money.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 5:53 pm Reply with quote
I had no idea things were this bad. I think FUNI will come out alright, but this could be really bad for ADV and smaller distributors. Bandai will probably be okay because it's a branch of a much larger Japanese corporation. The U.S. branch may take a large hit, but it should survive because of the Japanese base.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 7:31 pm Reply with quote
This is why mergers don't work. Cool
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HitokiriShadow



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:05 pm Reply with quote
GATSU wrote:
This is why mergers don't work. Cool


What? This problem has nothing to do with the merger. If anything, this merger is helping (if not saving) Funi.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:06 pm Reply with quote
I hope this doesn't affect Funimation Films.
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Hitokiri: Next you're gonna say Time Warner was helped by EhOhHell. Rolling Eyes
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