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GAME: Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance

False, this is only the case in Japan, globally FF13's numbers are not even that good, even for a game in a franchise that has been built up for decades longer than Mass Effect. Man, even your numbers now are skewed by your anti-west soapboxing. Dear god man, you ever going to step off that soapbox?

I just wanted to let you know, but you'd have more credibility making random numbers up than posting anything from VGChartz. So, those little comparisons of yours are completely worthless.

Mass Effect 3's the highest selling one so far, and it boasted about half that at 3.5 million shipped.

So yes, 13 out performed any ME game, the original point still stands, which is why it's silly people want Square to copy a less-successful game.

If you're going to call someone's numbers skewed, it's good to have some evidence when doing so.

"Shipped" is the operative word here. Obviously Keonyn's off about FF13 being a poor seller, but FF13 is also only available physically. Mass Effect has a probably massive number of digital sales that no one outside of EA has any data on, which is what Regannator was talking about. VGChartz can't account for those sales.

I have flat out stated that the biggest problem effecting the video game industry is that variety doesn't guarantee sales, sure occasionally you will see something like MineCraft but alot of times you are going to see something like Vanillaware were the developer makes barely any money, despite creating games that have fantastic stories with good drama, solid gameplay and the most unique art in the business

While VGCHartz is hardly concrete, they do use actual equations and confirmed sales figures to project sales figures, and they usually aren't that far off.

Have any of the KH Games after 2 continued the main story?

@ SereneChaos

Indeed, I am still surprised that Square Enix still hasn't gotten any manga based worlds involved in Kingdom Hearts because since they've played a big hand in making the Kingdom Hearts series and that they own Shonen Gangan, why haven't they done anything with it since they own both of them?

There's so much possibilities if they included manga-based titles into this series. If any of their popular titles like Fullmetal Alchemist and Soul Eater involved, it would so get more mainstream recognition that it deserves and non-anime fans would be intrigued by them and what better way to show them in than Kingdom Hearts?

Since The World Ends with You is the first non-Final Fantasy/non-Disney title to show up in a Kingdom Hearts game, there's probably hope that more will show up soon.

If Fullmetal Alchemist, Soul Eater, and the Marvel Cinematic Universe were to appear in a future Kingdom Hearts game, what is the famous term? Oh yeah...

Myaow wrote:

When is the Kingdom Hearts where they go to, like, The Black Cauldron and Oliver And Company? They've GOT to be running out of generally-well-liked-and-memorable Disney pictures soon, right?

Eventually they'll get desperate and go to Home On The Range and Pocahontas II.

You thought this game was EASY!?? I was just saying to a friend that I knew no one would complain about the easiness of this game because it wasn't At least for me. This has to be the KH game that I died the most during boss battles. I beat the game at level 34 btw. Next time I play I'll make sure to level up more

@ SereneChaos

Indeed, I am still surprised that Square Enix still hasn't gotten any manga based worlds involved in Kingdom Hearts...

Keonyn wrote:

False, this is only the case in Japan, globally FF13's numbers are not even that good, even for a game in a franchise that has been built up for decades longer than Mass Effect. Man, even your numbers now are skewed by your anti-west soapboxing. Dear god man, you ever going to step off that soapbox?

Looking at www.vgchartz.com, the games break down as follows:
Mass Effect 2:
Japan - .06 Million
Non-Japan - 4.25 Million
Total - 4.31 Million

Mass Effect 3:
Japan - .04 Million
Non-Japan - 3.77 Million
Total - 3.81 Million

Final Fantasy XIII
Japan - 1.88 Million
Non-Japan - 4.86 Million
Total - 6.74 Million

So, Final Fantasy XIII sold 610K more units outside of Japan than Mass Effect 2 and 1.09 million more units than Mass Effect 3 has (admittedly, Mass Effect 3 hasn't been out nearly as long). This runs counter to your claim that Final Fantasy XIII has sold poorly outside of Japan (admittedly, it sold much better in Japan comparative to the ME games).

You know, despite what you may want to think, pointing out something Japanese performed better than a Western thing doesn't make it a 'anti-west soapbox'. One could easily turn that around into a pro-western soap-box in your case, especially when you don't list a source for this claim but still feel it's enough to to insult people over it.

http://gematsu.com/2011/06/final-fantasy-xiii-shifted-over-6-million-copies

Meanwhile, Mass Effect 3's boasted about half that at 3.5 million shipped.

So yes, 13 out performed any ME game, the original point still stands, which is why it's silly if someone wants Square to copy a less-successful game or company. Maybe they just want FF to be an FPS now, who knows.

Correl wrote:

According to your acquaintances, where would I get more reliable sales figures?

Lol, you can't. Unless a particular company openly discloses sales numbers, that stuff is kept confidential.

Usually, though, big companies like to release sales numbers in quarterly reports as, I dunno, a sign of pride or something.