Forum - View topicPoll: Would You Buy Undubbed Anime, A Discussion
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Mohawk52
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I hope there is no way of multi-voting because this poll seems to be in conflict with what the market is showing. Dubs allegedly sell faster than sub only disks. If a title I'm interested in isn't available with a English dub I won't buy it. I'll rent it, but not buy it. That catagory wasn't available.
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remember love
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I found it strange myself seeing it's pretty much the subb side concider the market as well. I guess most anime fans that come to this website are more to the sub side.
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Pyoko
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I must say this was a bit of a pleasant surprise. Now I don't know how many copies a regular release usually sells but I think 80% of 5000+ people is still a sizeable amount.
Still, it's difficult to know if this is even close to representative of the entire market (probably not) since companies never want to risk anything and the few times they do a sub-only release it's of an unpopular, obscure show that was bound to fail at retail anyway. |
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Joe Mello
 Posts: 2312 Location: Online Terminal |
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80% of 5,000 is 4,000
 (I'm an Applied Mathematics Major. So sue me.)
I'd take the results with a grain of salt. I would go out on a limb and say that a majority of the "Hell, Yeah" group either a) Hates dubs b) Hates 4Kids c) Never actually buys anime and only watches fansubs d) some combination of a, b, and c I'm personally in the "prefer dubs, but so be it" group as opposed to the "totally indifferent" group simply because English is my first language and I prefer knowing what the people are saying aurally. If a show is good enough that it's worth buying, then I'll buy it whether it's English or not. If there were no English dubs at all, where would you think anime in America would be right now? |
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Starwind Amada
Posts: 981 Location: Easton, PA, USA |
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No dub, no sale, unless I REALLY want it.
Hell, even my club's been watching dubs lately. |
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GoodLuckSaturday
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I'm the opposite. No sub, no sale. The only anime I've bought without a sub track was Totoro, and that was because it was $5. I voted indifferent because I honestly don't care what language I watch it in, but I want my DVDs to have a Japanese language track. It may be a long time before I watch it, but I want it on there. |
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mufurc
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Or how about "d) doesn't hate dubs but prefers subs, so doesn't mind if there's no dub on a DVD"?  No, really, people like this exist.
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Mohawk52
Posts: 8202 Location: England, UK |
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BTW I just voted twice so this pole is naff.
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Pyoko
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The same thing can be said about fansubs, yet now the companies can do nothing but complain that they're losing out on potential sales. Maybe it's just time to let go.
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Mohawk52
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Ataru
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Tempest
 I Run this place.ANN Publisher  Posts: 10461 Location: Do not message me for support. |
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With any poll we run, there is invariably going to be some options that we don't include. Either because we don't think of them when making the poll, or it just isn't possible for us to include every remote possibility. Until we have a polling system with an "add your own answer" option, this isn't going to change. Also, as for market versus polls, there's an important distinction to make between the market, and registered ANN readers. You guys aren't average. The average anime fan doens't come to a daily updated website to find out what happenned in the anime world today. They just go to the store and buy/rent whatever it is that interests them. Or they find out from their one friend who comes to ANN. So its not surprising that the ANN polls don't reflect the market. What they do reflect, are the more hardcore fans. The "core" market. -t |
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Tempest
I Run this place. ANN Publisher Posts: 10461 Location: Do not message me for support. |
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That's the next poll. -t |
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ACDragonMaster
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See, the problem with the whole sales issue is that Americans EXPECT dubs. They expect to be catered to. Maybe that's one good thing fansubs do, is provide a series only in subtitles so that if you want to watch it, too bad, you need to use the subtitles.
If I recall though in the other thread where the discussion came up, someone suggested the idea of companies doing a fast release of cheaper sub-only discs, to get the anime out there immediately after it's been lisenced, and then it'd be possible to later follow up with a dub release, especially if the series is going to air on tv. Releasing that sort of thing quickly might also help stem the fansubs, because when the release of a series takes forever because of how long it takes to record the dub, people often get impatient and resort to fansubs again. I think if enough companies tried it as an experiment, the idea might catch on. The anime fandom now is different from the fandom when the idea of animation from Japan was just beginning to become a big thing, now there might be a chance at sub-only discs becoming a new trend. Except, of course, for those whiners who have to have EVERYTHING dubbed in their own language, because heaven forbid they actually watch something in a language from one of those other countries in the world and that takes a little bit more effort to understand.
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Pyoko
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Or that they're OLD, or most likely a combination of all. This was what I was trying to say, that every time they do a sub-only release it's of a show no one would buy anyway. Because I really doubt City Hunter or Urusei Yatsura would have been huge hits even if they had been dubbed. And I've thought about the release ACDragonMaster mentioned myself, and I would really like to see something like that happen. Even if it wasn't a show I was going to buy it would be interesting as an experiment nonetheless. Release a cheap, sub-only boxset first but make sure to announce that a regular sub/dub edition will be coming shortly. Then (or starting at the same time) do a regular singles release schedule and see what sells. While unlikely that it would happen, theoretically it shouldn't be too difficult. You need to have it translated in order to dub it anyway, so they could just release discs with those translations in the meatime. The biggest problem would probably be that you'd have to author two different sets of discs, which means that the most likely candidate would be ADV since they do all of it in-house. (And nowadays it doesn't look like they have much else to do than re-author discs anyway.  )
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