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NEWS: Kodansha to Support Simultaneous Print/Digital Releases in Japan


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Sunday Silence



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:45 am Reply with quote
Wrong, wrong, WRONG!!!

It should be a simultaneous release in japanese and english, in both Japan and the USA.
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Ichigo77



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:47 am Reply with quote
I like this idea. Viz and Yen Press have an app for digital releases so Kodansha should too. Something I would really love but probably wont happen is for manga to come with a free digital copy like some marvel and dc comics do but not even american graphic novels come with digital copies only single monthly issues do.
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Shay Guy



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:19 am Reply with quote
Well, it's a start.
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Hagaren Viper



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:57 am Reply with quote
Sunday Silence wrote:
Wrong, wrong, WRONG!!!

It should be a simultaneous release in japanese and english, in both Japan and the USA.


Its 'wrong' because it doesn't cater to you? Really? This bit of news has nothing to do with the American side of things, clearly.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:29 am Reply with quote
Sunday Silence wrote:
Wrong, wrong, WRONG!!!

It should be a simultaneous release in japanese and english, in both Japan and the USA.


Thank you, it's always good to start my day off with a laugh.

I just would like to see the digital version have no region locks. I don't currently have a VPN end point in Japan (although I think I could pick one up for a small fee), and then there is always the question of payment (how does one continue the illusion of region locks when payment is coming from the middle of America?). Well, I guess we'll burn that bridge when we get to it.
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Sunday Silence



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:38 am Reply with quote
Hagaren Viper wrote:
Sunday Silence wrote:
Wrong, wrong, WRONG!!!

It should be a simultaneous release in japanese and english, in both Japan and the USA.


Its 'wrong' because it doesn't cater to you? Really? This bit of news has nothing to do with the American side of things, clearly.


If the whole Apple iPhone Pokemon debacle showed, if you give the people what they want, they'll pay for it.
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enurtsol



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:04 am Reply with quote
Sunday Silence wrote:
Hagaren Viper wrote:
Sunday Silence wrote:
Wrong, wrong, WRONG!!!

It should be a simultaneous release in japanese and english, in both Japan and the USA.


Its 'wrong' because it doesn't cater to you? Really? This bit of news has nothing to do with the American side of things, clearly.


If the whole Apple iPhone Pokemon debacle showed, if you give the people what they want, they'll pay for it.


Well............. depends on the price.............. Things can be expensive in Japan, in addition to unfavorable exchange rates...........
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TheHTRO



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:10 am Reply with quote
Ichigo77 wrote:
Viz and Yen Press have an app for digital releases so Kodansha should too.


Actually, they do, but it's only available for the iPad at the moment (I wish it would come to the iPhone/iPod Touch, though).
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:37 pm Reply with quote
TheHTRO wrote:
Ichigo77 wrote:
Viz and Yen Press have an app for digital releases so Kodansha should too.


Actually, they do, but it's only available for the iPad at the moment (I wish it would come to the iPhone/iPod Touch, though).

But it shouldn't be just an app ~ there should be a web portal to content stored in the cloud.

This is excellent news, since it allows Kodansha to explore business models that they have not been set up to work with before.

As far as "No, no, no, it should be ...", , As a supporter of "day and date, print and digital, worldwide" if it can be worked out, to me it seems irrational to denounce a necessary step in that direction.

That is, before we can get to "day and date, print and digital, worldwide" ... we need to get to "day and date, print and digital in Japan" first.

And if it ended up as day and date print and digital in Japan, and digital overseas in three days ... would that really be so horrible?
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enurtsol



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:19 pm Reply with quote
agila61 wrote:
TheHTRO wrote:
Ichigo77 wrote:
Viz and Yen Press have an app for digital releases so Kodansha should too.


Actually, they do, but it's only available for the iPad at the moment (I wish it would come to the iPhone/iPod Touch, though).

But it shouldn't be just an app ~ there should be a web portal to content stored in the cloud.

This is excellent news, since it allows Kodansha to explore business models that they have not been set up to work with before.

As far as "No, no, no, it should be ...", , As a supporter of "day and date, print and digital, worldwide" if it can be worked out, to me it seems irrational to denounce a necessary step in that direction.

That is, before we can get to "day and date, print and digital, worldwide" ... we need to get to "day and date, print and digital in Japan" first.

And if it ended up as day and date print and digital in Japan, and digital overseas in three days ... would that really be so horrible?


This reminds me, do DC and Marvel offer day-date digital worldwide?
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agila61



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:00 pm Reply with quote
enurtsol wrote:
This reminds me, do DC and Marvel offer day-date digital worldwide?

I think that Marvel will for their Marvel Universe comics when they go Day and Date by the end of next month ~ at least, one review that I saw of Marvel's Digital Comics was an Ozzie in London, and international restrictions were not raised as an issue.

Of course, that is original art, not translated ~ their original work being in English implies a substantially larger original language market overseas than for a Japanese publisher.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:52 pm Reply with quote
enurtsol wrote:
agila61 wrote:
TheHTRO wrote:
Ichigo77 wrote:
Viz and Yen Press have an app for digital releases so Kodansha should too.


Actually, they do, but it's only available for the iPad at the moment (I wish it would come to the iPhone/iPod Touch, though).

But it shouldn't be just an app ~ there should be a web portal to content stored in the cloud.

This is excellent news, since it allows Kodansha to explore business models that they have not been set up to work with before.

As far as "No, no, no, it should be ...", , As a supporter of "day and date, print and digital, worldwide" if it can be worked out, to me it seems irrational to denounce a necessary step in that direction.

That is, before we can get to "day and date, print and digital, worldwide" ... we need to get to "day and date, print and digital in Japan" first.

And if it ended up as day and date print and digital in Japan, and digital overseas in three days ... would that really be so horrible?


This reminds me, do DC and Marvel offer day-date digital worldwide?


DC yes they launch their digital comics same day as print. Marvel is doing that with some but not everything. I do with more comics would come with a combo pack but it is still a new thing so give it time.

At the time of my last post I didn't know Kodansha had an ipad app but out of curiosity I checked the app store after making that post lol. They only have 4 mangas now and the only one I read is fairy tail from their list but it is better then nothing. I hope in the future all these manga apps come to other OS systems and work like the kindle app were you buy once and can read on an ipad, iphone, ipod, andriod, black berry, windows phone, pc or mac. I also like how the DC,Marvel, and comixology app are all linked. If you buy something DC on comixology you have it on that app and the DC app and if you buy a Marvel book you have it on both comixology and Marvel app.
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Annf



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:20 pm Reply with quote
Melanchthon wrote:
I just would like to see the digital version have no region locks.

Most current Japanese ebook stores have no region locks. Ditto for the free web magazines like Web Comic High, etc.
Papyless even directly promotes their ebook rental service to foreign users through CDJapan.
There's a wealth of free and paid ebook services in Japan open to a worldwide audience right this moment.
It's just the language barrier that keeps a lot of the world unaware of it.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:34 pm Reply with quote
Annf wrote:
Melanchthon wrote:
I just would like to see the digital version have no region locks.

Most current Japanese ebook stores have no region locks. Ditto for the free web magazines like Web Comic High, etc.
Papyless even directly promotes their ebook rental service to foreign users through CDJapan.
There's a wealth of free and paid ebook services in Japan open to a worldwide audience right this moment.
It's just the language barrier that keeps a lot of the world unaware of it.

More than awareness ~ I can be aware of Japanese releases, but if they're in Japanese, it does me no good. I could struggle through a Spanish translation with a bilingual dictionary open in another window, but Japanese ... not a snowball's chance in Hades.

Of course, given the limited Japanese market outside Japan, worldwide Japanese distribution rights wouldn't seem like a hard ask in negotiations. DC and Marvel don't have to worry about things like that, since DC and Marvel comics are work for hire.
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einhorn303



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:38 pm Reply with quote
I would be all about DRM-free downloadable digital releases, though I doubt that's too likely from a large Japanese publisher.
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