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REVIEW: Gantz DVD 1


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Ken-san



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 9:02 pm Reply with quote
Juniper wrote:
Ken-san wrote:

A well thought out response. Back to your other statement about extras . . . exactly how much content do you think is produced for all of these shows? Not that much, outside of the really popular things. A lot of the extras have to be produced by the domestic companies themselves, and some of them just don't see it as a viable expense to produce it.


That doesn't really matter. He already said that it wasn't the extras that mattered, that there were other things one could fill a disc with, like higher quality video, higher quality sound, etc.

Yes, sure, you buy something for the show and not the extras, but when you're paying for a DVD, you're paying for quality. When we give the companies our money, we expect them to give us the best they can. Japanese discs cost a lot more than US discs, but with that comes qualtiy.


That doesn't really matter. He already said that it wasn't the extras that mattered, that there were other things one could fill a disc with, like higher quality video, higher quality sound, etc.

Yes, sure, you buy something for the show and not the extras, but when you're paying for a DVD, you're paying for quality. When we give the companies our money, we expect them to give us the best they can. Japanese discs cost a lot more than US discs, but with that comes qualtiy.[/quote]

I understand this as well, but when would a company draw the line? When exactly does it stop being cost effective to make a pristine transfer. ADV may be big, but they'll never be an MGM or Universal Pictures
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 10:45 pm Reply with quote
Ken-san wrote:
I understand this as well, but when would a company draw the line? When exactly does it stop being cost effective to make a pristine transfer. ADV may be big, but they'll never be an MGM or Universal Pictures


Maybe if they stopped making gutterball crap like Lady Death and Sin, and stopped pulling shit like SIster Princess, and focuesed on more pristine, finer rele-

Oh wait, I forgot, that's how they make their money. Sorry.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:04 pm Reply with quote
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Steventheeunuch





PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 4:05 am Reply with quote
one3rd wrote:
I'd like to just take a moment to remind everyone that despite all of the ADV bashing that goes on everywhere, people still like them. ANN ran two informal polls on the subjects:


uhh.... and? I wasn't so gung-ho against them before they pulled off this little bit of ass-hattery, and I'm sure if they had the poll after this, my vote would go elsewhere.
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elniro



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 6:41 am Reply with quote
Gantz does sound interesting and this review makes me want to watch it even more, but i cannot afford to import gantz dvds from US when there's only 2 episodes per disc, its just bad value
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Ken-san



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:46 am Reply with quote
darkhunter wrote:
AncientDragonValgaav wrote:
Um the people at ADV said it will be two episodes per disc. For being such an insider you are really clueless.


lol insider.

Well I wonder if anyone else got the same flyer that said it's going to be 4 episode per dvd.


As "clueless" as you say I am, you must be equally as clueless because as I previously stated, I NEVER said that it WOULD be 4 eps per disc. I SPECULATED (a word found in any dictionary or thesaurus readily available in your local public or high school library) that it probably would be more than 2. I'll admit I was wrong, but I also stated in my original post:

[quote]None of the insiders got anything more than the disc itself and a promotional flyer.[/qoute]

And in my second post I expounded that:

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I'm saying that this is a REALLY advanced copy. I got mine in late December.


And this one is for you Valgaav, since you wish to throw your 2 cents in: My 3rd post

[qoute]Well that totally differs from what the flyer said. But this was late december and companies often change their minds. So that totally blows.[/qoute]

No, I didn't read the press release because I didn't know they would've changed their minds so quickly, which they did. As I said in my posts, NO INFORMATION ABOUT those things were said in the promotional flyer. So instead of acting like [beep], read all of the posts first before you speak.
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Juniper



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 12:53 pm Reply with quote
Ken-san wrote:
No, I didn't read the press release because I didn't know they would've changed their minds so quickly, which they did. As I said in my posts, NO INFORMATION ABOUT those things were said in the promotional flyer. So instead of acting like an elitist ass, read all of the posts first before you speak.


I don't think he was being an elitist ass. I think he was just pointing out that since you're an "insider," you should probably keep a little more up to date on anime news. The news (and subsequential uproar about it) on the Gantz release has been posted on all the major anime news sites on the internet, and it's been a huge topic of discussion for weeks now.

The promotional flyer only said, and I quote:
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Volume 1 of Gantz is scheduled to street in February... on this disc, you'll find the first two episodes of the series in their full, uncut forms.


So yes, it never makes a mention that it would only be 2 episodes, but that's beside the point. He was merely just commentating that an "insider" like yourself should be up to date on what's shaking in the domestic anime industry.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 1:56 pm Reply with quote
incase somene didn't alreadt remention it its in the review but hey somepeople probly skimmed thru and said
"ZOMG only 2 eps a disks flame away"


It is the directers cut. that and the cheaper price makes up for the 2 eps a disk release.
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darkhunter



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 3:08 pm Reply with quote
cyrax777 wrote:
It is the directers cut. that and the cheaper price makes up for the 2 eps a disk release.


If 2 episode retail sell for 18 dollar while 4 or 5 episode sell for 25-30 dollar, than you're paying more than a regular release unless it was 3 episode per disc which is only likely on series that were popular on TV.

Looking at the bigger picture, it might be a way to lure more people into anime. if Average Joe (who never seen anime before or just a casual viewer) went to Target to buy a dvd, he or she will notice the 18 dollar price tag on GANTZ compare to every other anime that's 30 dollar. Plus it got violence and sex, it's going to attract people. See, average Joe doesn't realize it until he watch the anime and relize that there's only 2 episode on the disc. And I'll bet you there's a lot of casual anime viewer that buy anime base on the cover and pricing (fruit basket didn't sell well at it's original retail price in spite of having more episode per disc)
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appleturbo



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 4:07 pm Reply with quote
Hey everyone cut Ken-san some slack.

You should realize that he has to say good things about ADV and try to defuse internet FLAMES even though he knows he is wrong because if he doesn't ADV won't send him anymore DVD's.

I mean think about it, he would have to be a complete moron to not have read the press release on the website that he writes for.

Personally this DVD is a pass. IMO the show sucked and no matter how much blood or boobs you put in it won't make up for a bad story. The point that really nailed it was the part about the dog giving oral to a woman. Please that crosses the line.
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ganzo



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 4:15 pm Reply with quote
I was going to say something, but forgot my password, but only yesterday there was one reply, and now there are so many!??

But I was going say is that this one did it, I am not pleased about the review, how did the B get in there, this one deserve a A, no matter what.

If you cannot wait for the dvd then maybe consider get the tv rip with sub or study japanese and watch on fuji when its aired.

As for this series, gonzo acheived a lot. One is the proper 2d 3d mix as in 3d was used in the proper place like the ball and the walls. Two is the consistence of the artistic style, clear and detailed drawing and color contrast stands out well.

Three the story was weird in a good way because it lures, and the way they make they speak out the thoughts made it more psycho.

There was a lot of blood and nudity but it suit well, I mean, you get immune to those after watching kite, elfen lied and hentai type of anime.

I do think the episode is messed up with the cut one thats 11 episode and uncut that is 13. Theme songs with rip slym and bonnie pink suits perfectly, and in my opinion one of the best. The Italian ganster did a solid work here, they deserve a A.
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Juniper



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 5:15 pm Reply with quote
ganzo wrote:

But I was going say is that this one did it, I am not pleased about the review, how did the B get in there, this one deserve a A, no matter what.


Did you... even *read* the review? The reviewer EXPLAINED where the Bs came from. Is it not clear to you from reading the text?

Before shooting your mouth off on a forum, you should try to try reading the reviews to find out how the B "got in there." Also, you have to realize that a B is NOT a bad score. In fact, it got B+s!!! At this point, I am completely *speechless* at why you're upset because a review gave a show a B+ in two things instead of As.

Dude, the world does not revolve around you. Reviewers can't just give As to everything because you like something. Get a grip, and get some logic.
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Juniper



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 5:21 pm Reply with quote
appleturbo wrote:
Hey everyone cut Ken-san some slack.

You should realize that he has to say good things about ADV and try to defuse internet FLAMES even though he knows he is wrong because if he doesn't ADV won't send him anymore DVD's.

I mean think about it, he would have to be a complete moron to not have read the press release on the website that he writes for.


... No. This is a HUGE misconception about the anime press. People are not obligated to say only nice things about anime companies, because then that would be 1) ass-kissing and 2) unprofessional. If there is something to criticize, they will do it.
Also, even if you give a company bad reviews, or criticize them for something, they will still send screener discs. Assuming that people have to say nice things about companies in order to keep getting screeners is a HUGE mistake, and completely undermines any integrity that anime websites and publications have.

Don't be so naive. And please, pay these writers some respect. What you have said is very insulting. The integrity of writers and website owners is worth far more than screeners.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 5:38 pm Reply with quote
Folks, please be a bit more polite.

Ken-san made a mistake, and IMHO, he should have been a bit more careful about the facts before saying anything.

But he didn't deserve some of the comments he received. What's more, there's no need to beat the horse...
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darkhunter



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 8:24 pm Reply with quote
All was said that he was "clueless" when he claim and brag about being an "insider". Perhaps Ken-san is just oversensitive when he's proven wrong? But yea, we were beating the horse a bit too much.

And the only other name calling was done by Mr. Ken-san himself, with such terms like "elitist ass".

But back to the topic, I somehow see this backfire. I notice a lot of people who buy hk bootlegs always complain how low the episode count are on R1 (I think 4 is fine). It's already happening in the fansub community using Gant's release as example of bad greedy releases.
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